YX’s Future as a UAX Carrier
12-08-2019, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sigler
Is the Republic UA flying mostly out of EWR?
EWR-72
ORD-40
IAH-22
DEN-19
IAD-9
I think opening IAH somewhat backfired. BB stated multiple times we’d be going after other flying once CPA contracts expired. Well, Mesa’s was set to expire, but just got renewed. And to add insult to injury, they not only renewed their CPA, but expanded it with 20 additional frames. You’d be blind if you didn’t think opening IAH was an attempt at winning some of their flying. Just another reason I question our longtime viability as a UAX regional.
12-08-2019, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KCaviator
Daily Departures by UA Hub (Jan 2020):
EWR-72
ORD-40
IAH-22
DEN-19
IAD-9
I think opening IAH somewhat backfired. BB stated multiple times we’d be going after other flying once CPA contracts expired. Well, Mesa’s was set to expire, but just got renewed. And to add insult to injury, they not only renewed their CPA, but expanded it with 20 additional frames. You’d be blind if you didn’t think opening IAH was an attempt at winning some of their flying. Just another reason I question our longtime viability as a UAX regional.
EWR-72
ORD-40
IAH-22
DEN-19
IAD-9
I think opening IAH somewhat backfired. BB stated multiple times we’d be going after other flying once CPA contracts expired. Well, Mesa’s was set to expire, but just got renewed. And to add insult to injury, they not only renewed their CPA, but expanded it with 20 additional frames. You’d be blind if you didn’t think opening IAH was an attempt at winning some of their flying. Just another reason I question our longtime viability as a UAX regional.
12-08-2019, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
Technically Mesa didn’t expand anything. They did renew their contract, but the 20 E175’s are replacements for old 700’s. They didn’t gain hulls or flying, they just traded in the old beater for a new car.
12-08-2019, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KCaviator
Daily Departures by UA Hub (Jan 2020):
EWR-72
ORD-40
IAH-22
DEN-19
IAD-9
I think opening IAH somewhat backfired. BB stated multiple times we’d be going after other flying once CPA contracts expired. Well, Mesa’s was set to expire, but just got renewed. And to add insult to injury, they not only renewed their CPA, but expanded it with 20 additional frames. You’d be blind if you didn’t think opening IAH was an attempt at winning some of their flying. Just another reason I question our longtime viability as a UAX regional.
EWR-72
ORD-40
IAH-22
DEN-19
IAD-9
I think opening IAH somewhat backfired. BB stated multiple times we’d be going after other flying once CPA contracts expired. Well, Mesa’s was set to expire, but just got renewed. And to add insult to injury, they not only renewed their CPA, but expanded it with 20 additional frames. You’d be blind if you didn’t think opening IAH was an attempt at winning some of their flying. Just another reason I question our longtime viability as a UAX regional.
You’re right to question. If deniers don’t see the writing on the wall they're delusional. United has doubled down with their preferred partners and have been awarding more 175s to those partners. One of which (xjet) didn’t even have a 175 program! And now Envoy is slowly bringing their 175s through LGA. Mainline is clearly transitioning to a wholly owned type model.
Everyone wanted to bet on Republic either buying trans state holdings or securing our competitors flying after their contracts were up but maybe it’s Republic that’ll be the odd man out. Id be shocked if we still see those 100 airplanes BB ordered (that we haven’t heard anything about in a year...)
The only thing I could possibly see is Republic stepping in and operating the 76 seat flying gojet was doing in Denver as they transition to a 550 fleet. That would explain the growth in Denver recently, but that could also just be us filling in while the Max is out... either way, no one except management knows what’s going on and I don’t think they even know what’s around the corner. Just get in get your time and get out.
12-09-2019, 10:32 AM
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Agreed. I think a lot of people just don't want to believe it, but it's pretty obvious how United and American want their wholly owned and preferred partners doing the flying.
Originally Posted by fortyeight
You’re right to question. If deniers don’t see the writing on the wall they're delusional. United has doubled down with their preferred partners and have been awarding more 175s to those partners. One of which (xjet) didn’t even have a 175 program! And now Envoy is slowly bringing their 175s through LGA. Mainline is clearly transitioning to a wholly owned type model.
Everyone wanted to bet on Republic either buying trans state holdings or securing our competitors flying after their contracts were up but maybe it’s Republic that’ll be the odd man out. Id be shocked if we still see those 100 airplanes BB ordered (that we haven’t heard anything about in a year...)
The only thing I could possibly see is Republic stepping in and operating the 76 seat flying gojet was doing in Denver as they transition to a 550 fleet. That would explain the growth in Denver recently, but that could also just be us filling in while the Max is out... either way, no one except management knows what’s going on and I don’t think they even know what’s around the corner. Just get in get your time and get out.
Everyone wanted to bet on Republic either buying trans state holdings or securing our competitors flying after their contracts were up but maybe it’s Republic that’ll be the odd man out. Id be shocked if we still see those 100 airplanes BB ordered (that we haven’t heard anything about in a year...)
The only thing I could possibly see is Republic stepping in and operating the 76 seat flying gojet was doing in Denver as they transition to a 550 fleet. That would explain the growth in Denver recently, but that could also just be us filling in while the Max is out... either way, no one except management knows what’s going on and I don’t think they even know what’s around the corner. Just get in get your time and get out.
12-09-2019, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by thunderbird22
Agreed. I think a lot of people just don't want to believe it, but it's pretty obvious how United and American want their wholly owned and preferred partners doing the flying.
12-09-2019, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
You’re right to question. If deniers don’t see the writing on the wall they're delusional. United has doubled down with their preferred partners and have been awarding more 175s to those partners. One of which (xjet) didn’t even have a 175 program! And now Envoy is slowly bringing their 175s through LGA. Mainline is clearly transitioning to a wholly owned type model.
Everyone wanted to bet on Republic either buying trans state holdings or securing our competitors flying after their contracts were up but maybe it’s Republic that’ll be the odd man out. Id be shocked if we still see those 100 airplanes BB ordered (that we haven’t heard anything about in a year...)
The only thing I could possibly see is Republic stepping in and operating the 76 seat flying gojet was doing in Denver as they transition to a 550 fleet. That would explain the growth in Denver recently, but that could also just be us filling in while the Max is out... either way, no one except management knows what’s going on and I don’t think they even know what’s around the corner. Just get in get your time and get out.
Everyone wanted to bet on Republic either buying trans state holdings or securing our competitors flying after their contracts were up but maybe it’s Republic that’ll be the odd man out. Id be shocked if we still see those 100 airplanes BB ordered (that we haven’t heard anything about in a year...)
The only thing I could possibly see is Republic stepping in and operating the 76 seat flying gojet was doing in Denver as they transition to a 550 fleet. That would explain the growth in Denver recently, but that could also just be us filling in while the Max is out... either way, no one except management knows what’s going on and I don’t think they even know what’s around the corner. Just get in get your time and get out.
12-09-2019, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
You’re right to question. If deniers don’t see the writing on the wall they're delusional. United has doubled down with their preferred partners and have been awarding more 175s to those partners. One of which (xjet) didn’t even have a 175 program! And now Envoy is slowly bringing their 175s through LGA. Mainline is clearly transitioning to a wholly owned type model.
Everyone wanted to bet on Republic either buying trans state holdings or securing our competitors flying after their contracts were up but maybe it’s Republic that’ll be the odd man out. Id be shocked if we still see those 100 airplanes BB ordered (that we haven’t heard anything about in a year...)
The only thing I could possibly see is Republic stepping in and operating the 76 seat flying gojet was doing in Denver as they transition to a 550 fleet. That would explain the growth in Denver recently, but that could also just be us filling in while the Max is out... either way, no one except management knows what’s going on and I don’t think they even know what’s around the corner. Just get in get your time and get out.
Everyone wanted to bet on Republic either buying trans state holdings or securing our competitors flying after their contracts were up but maybe it’s Republic that’ll be the odd man out. Id be shocked if we still see those 100 airplanes BB ordered (that we haven’t heard anything about in a year...)
The only thing I could possibly see is Republic stepping in and operating the 76 seat flying gojet was doing in Denver as they transition to a 550 fleet. That would explain the growth in Denver recently, but that could also just be us filling in while the Max is out... either way, no one except management knows what’s going on and I don’t think they even know what’s around the corner. Just get in get your time and get out.
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