flynd94

Been in the industry long? Those costs are part of a contract. One thing that makes one airline cheaper is their benefits.

Burt123

A CBA (quality of life/compensation), as well as the other kind benefits a regional airline offers its pilots is a direct indication of how much they’re billing mainline to do they’re flying for them. The whole point of the regional airline industry is so mainline can reduce LABOR costs. Mesa has an extremely subpar CBA/benefits compared to their competitors, so make the connection it’s not hard to understand. They’re definitely NOT getting awarded additional flying because of their stellar performance and reliability....those numbers are all public accessible.

avi8tor614

Could you show/prove any kind of evidence that our contract with United is low-ball the rest of the industry, out side of you guessing and making assumptions. I studied business like a lot if pilots here and if that's your argument I got something for you to think about. What if I told you Mesa contracts were standard and Republic's contract's/ CBA's were overpriced and the reason why airlines like to partner with you is for write off purposes. (For the other MBA's out here I'm just trying to prove a point not being trying to go deep here)There are companies who operate in the RED because thier losses they claim is better than the profit they would have claimed. This happens in businesses all the time. I'm not saying this is what it is because I don't know, BUT it could be why you enjoy your quality of life for now. It's like I said before a billion dollar should knows what it is doing. If your like me your trying to get to the same company. There is no difference to United between Republic and Mesa. IT'S BUSINESS. You think because you have higher pay and better benefits your the better company. Not exactly if you understand business. It benefits you right now which is great. Some companies look for the Long haul rather than the short immediate gratification. Just stop insulting a company when you have no idea what thier role is. I'll take a paycut and have standard contract with longevity and job security Vs. I want it all right now overpay me because I think I'm worth and no job in year or two. Bottom line is you have no idea what the contracts are stop equating your pay to whom United or any of our partners think is better. If you think that you don't understand how businesses work.

Burt123

I stopped reading at “I’ll take a paycut.” That’s the Mesa pilot attitude we’re all familiar with.

It’ll be really interesting when the 737 rates get published. I’m sure there’s going to be a ton of hate from the ACME carriers who are still fighting for a better contract when Mesa starts undercutting that industry as well...

My best guess is you’re extremely new to the airlines. Probably fresh off of getting let go at a more preferred regional only to have Mesa welcome you with arms wide open. Now you’re all giddy as a new FO on your shiny barbie jet running through those 10 plus MEL’s every flight and trying to put your best effort into polishing a turd. YV is a turd, this is nothing new. If you knew the history of the company you’re employed at we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Jungle Jim

In other words, if Mesa didn't make good financial sense to keep utilizing despite the dismal performance figures we do know, would they still exist? If the union/pilot group didn't understand their role as the whipsaw voting in concessionary contracts and thereby undercutting the industry as a whole, they wouldn't exist in that scenario either. Yet every time the flying contracts come up from renewal and it doesn't look good for Mesa, the contracts get renewed - or even expanded. I can guarantee you this isn't because they're the premium priced option. It's because they're cheap and the labor groups are willing to allow management to run over them for the sake of existing. This is the history of Mesa. This is why they still exist.

Why are the unemployable elsewhere always employed at Mesa? They're willing to do it at a cut rate for the sake of flying, and airplanes need crews no matter how under-qualified they might be to another carrier. There's no smoke and mirrors going on to the rest of us looking in on Mesa. There aren't many people out there with a clean record busting their asses to get time and get hired going 'damn I can't wait to go to Mesa!' Mesa has always been the last resort for most. And the pay scales are all the proof you need to figure that out.

(No sorry I don't have the contracts in front of me to prove that, but if they were expensive and performed the way they did, they wouldn't exist. Dirt cheap with terrible performance is still a win for the bean counters who serve the shareholders.)

KCaviator

No way you just said this. GTFO. We’re all out here fighting for better work rules, QOL, and pay and you’re over here saying you’ll take a ****ing pay cut in 2019?! No wonder you’re at Mesa.

Meow1215

I would bet you would scab too. Great job undermining the profession, why not move to Manila and be based out of Dublin while you are at it?

LoneStar32

He was one of those new commercial pilots that would post "hey guy, low time commercial pilot here. Anybody know of any jobs? I'll fly for free."

Hawker445

Supposedly Skywest is picking up the slack form Mesa's 175 flying.

avi8tor614

Ok your saying you won't take a paycut, my apologies maybe your at a mainline already, I did not realize this. Mainline have AA rates for E175, CRJ 700 and 900and UAL have rates for E175 and CRJ 700. They don't match republic rates they are much higher sooooo. If you are flying any aircraft that has an AA or UAL logo and your NOT being paid the pay rate which was negotiated by the pilots that work for that parent company then in essence you are doing what?........ Taking a paycut. You can squabble all you want I realize until I get to mainline as long as I fly thier banner and not receive thier negotiated rates that thier pilots would get, I take a paycut. By the way I could have gone to Republic for higher pay but, I would have to commute, pay for crash pads, eat out more and just spend more money so I did the math for me not just what looks good on paper if I had went to your awesome company I would have given myself; say it with me........ a paycut. Had to look out for me