Republic Union pushing for J/S Priority
03-21-2021, 12:44 PM
#92
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
you already do. It’s AAC. You’re right there with the other contractors. How is that not good enough?
so again, why do you care if an rah, Mesa, or Skywest pilot gets aac fdj?
03-21-2021, 01:46 PM
#93
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
Someone else already gave an example, the back has open seats so they list as AAC. Then the back fills up and in the mean time an OAL pilot shows up and gets the jumpseat. And now y’all are screwed.
Why wouldn’t you list for the jumpseat every-time. If there’s a seat in the back the gate agent is going to give it to you
Why wouldn’t you list for the jumpseat every-time. If there’s a seat in the back the gate agent is going to give it to you
Instead of telling me what I should have done, can you answer why you think we shouldn’t get aac fdj? Just trying to get to the root of your argument to understand your position. All I’m getting is, well you should have done this
03-21-2021, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
you already do. It’s AAC. You’re right there with the other contractors. How is that not good enough? And if I was in the sub contractor pool, I’d be happy I was at least that high on the list.
so RAH wants to open a whole new category for AA subcontractors? Where you are all grouped with SKW and ASH? Above say, UAL but below AAG?
so RAH wants to open a whole new category for AA subcontractors? Where you are all grouped with SKW and ASH? Above say, UAL but below AAG?
03-21-2021, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
I’ll forward this to THKooj and get back with his answer.
APA said AAC FDJ was a technology issue and to talk to AA Management. In 2019 the band aid fix was promised and we didn't change AAG pilots to D6U on YX JS. We kept giving you the current priority you enjoy over OAL. AA Management contacted us now to make the agreed upon change that was pending IT resolution and now APA wants to cast YX pilots as scum
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03-21-2021, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by amberdash
As they should... Republic pilots support the United operation. That AA pilot does not.
Seriously though how do people not understand this? Republic pilots support United. Why shouldn’t they have priority over American. Republic pilots support Delta, why shouldn’t they have priority over United? It’s very simple.
And this whole “republic pilots shouldn’t have priority on multiple airlines” sentiment is absolutely moronic. We DON’T have priority. We can still get bumped by anyone or any of their pass travelers on their own metal. So we just continue without a reciprocal agreement at AA because someone there thinks it isn’t fair Republic pilots have higher priority on United and Delta than AA pilots? Give me a break.
Seriously though how do people not understand this? Republic pilots support United. Why shouldn’t they have priority over American. Republic pilots support Delta, why shouldn’t they have priority over United? It’s very simple.
And this whole “republic pilots shouldn’t have priority on multiple airlines” sentiment is absolutely moronic. We DON’T have priority. We can still get bumped by anyone or any of their pass travelers on their own metal. So we just continue without a reciprocal agreement at AA because someone there thinks it isn’t fair Republic pilots have higher priority on United and Delta than AA pilots? Give me a break.
03-21-2021, 06:02 PM
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Even if RAH succeeds and their Eagle JS becomes OAL FCFS they still can't cry foul if AA allows their own employees to list D2 FDJ and effectively hold two listings.
RAH being denied the ability to hold two listings will not violate a reciprocal JS agreement because the second listing is for nonrevng and therefore not in the scope of a reciprocal JS agreement.
Very unlikely a D6 will beat a D2 FDJ by time of check in.
RAH being denied the ability to hold two listings will not violate a reciprocal JS agreement because the second listing is for nonrevng and therefore not in the scope of a reciprocal JS agreement.
Very unlikely a D6 will beat a D2 FDJ by time of check in.
03-21-2021, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Happyflyer
Even if RAH succeeds and their Eagle JS becomes OAL FCFS they still can't cry foul if AA allows their own employees to list D2 FDJ and effectively hold two listings.
RAH being denied the ability to hold two listings will not violate a reciprocal JS agreement because the second listing is for nonrevng and therefore not in the scope of a reciprocal JS agreement.
Very unlikely a D6 will beat a D2 FDJ by time of check in.
RAH being denied the ability to hold two listings will not violate a reciprocal JS agreement because the second listing is for nonrevng and therefore not in the scope of a reciprocal JS agreement.
Very unlikely a D6 will beat a D2 FDJ by time of check in.
And to reiterate, this is the least preferred option by a wide margin, but one plausible way to re-impose reciprocity.
03-21-2021, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tonsterboy5
so let’s look at commuting from ORD-MSP, how many non rev carriers can you list on? Let me guess 3, that is 2 more than any mainline pilot, wholly owned, or “exclusive” carrier for United. If you don’t realize that you have more options than everyone else you might not be the sharpest tool in the shed.
Meanwhile, a Republic pilot just finished flying an AA trip 45 minutes ago, got beat to the podium two gates down and a Frontier pilot gets the jumpseat home to MSP. If an AA/Wholly owned pilot listed on an AA/wholly owned flight they’d get the jumpseat anyways.
03-21-2021, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
The premise is that AA can do whatever they want with respect to D2 FDJ, but Republic can require a D6 listing in order to actually occupy the jumpseat.
And to reiterate, this is the least preferred option by a wide margin, but one plausible way to re-impose reciprocity.
And to reiterate, this is the least preferred option by a wide margin, but one plausible way to re-impose reciprocity.
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