brockenspectre

"Sound about equal to me. That leaves domestic flying, of which you are seeking priority on 100% of our flights while we would get it on about 50% of yours. "

Why do you keep lumping other partners flying in with yours? I hope you are on purpose manipulating the numbers in the hopes to try and pull the wool over peoples eyes, and not thick headed enough to think that DL and UA seats should be included in this "100%".

sanicom3205

Okay, show me the numbers you have and how it differs from what I just said? About 50% of your flying is AA branded, right?

brockenspectre

100% of the AA flying is 100% branded AA.

sanicom3205

Leave the semantics behind and tell me where my numbers are wrong.

brockenspectre

You are trying to pull in flying that AA has absolutely ZERO to do with, that is where your numbers are wrong. Pick a side here....if you are going to argue about seat ownership, who's paint is on the plane, then you cannot pull in outside flying. I will gladly keep feeding you rope to continue to hanging yourself, but if I were you I would drop this stupid argument you are trying to make.

Gone Flying

well this just isn’t true. For as long as I’m aware (at least 10 years) UA and DL (and I think US air did this too, but that was before my time) offered elevated JS priority to contract carriers. what happened in 2019 was a completely separate issue that does not merit going into again here, but before that debacle, UAs JS priority was
1)UA
2)UAX
3)OAL

APA is wrong and out of line here. There is literally no reason someone who flies contract for AA should not go ahead of an OAL carrier like Spirit or Delta. And if that is too much to ask, then Republic is WELL within their right to reciprocate OAL status.

I don’t think it’s a TSA issue, you can carry non AA seniority list pilots on your intl jumpseat now (envoy may have the same parent company, but as far as the FAA is concerned they are two separate airlines) pre COVID, I was told UA was working on software to allow UAX to occupy the JS intl, not sure if that was true but I did hear it from a reliable source. Either way Republic cannot occupy the jumpseat on anywhere near 100% of your flights, so your argument loses a ton of merit.

sanicom3205

Our jumpseat guide says it is a TSA restriction. I can't think of any reason they would lie about that. Too lazy, or it's an added expense they haven't gone out of their way to make happen? I'd believe that. But it's not an arbitrary rule where we don't let you intl jumpseat for giggles or spite.

I think you're misunderstanding me. All of this is in the name of reciprocity according to you guys, right? So if we gave you jumpseat access on flights to Asia, South America, Europe... you can't reciprocate. So if it's reciprocity you're after, international jumpseating is off the table as you don't fly internationally like that.

That leaves us with domestic flying, which you are capable of reciprocating jumpseat priority on. That's the level playing field we must base everything on (in the name of reciprocity of course). On 100% of our domestic flights, you are seeking priority. In exchange for getting that priority, you would grant us priority on roughly 50% of your domestic flying. That's what I am getting at here, it's really simple. If you can't reciprocate in terms of international jumpseating, then why do you guys keep bringing it up? Reciprocity is king I thought?

TangoIndiaMike1

I thought republic did flights into South America, Bahamas, eastern and middle Canada, couple places in Mexico, and a few other international destinations just south of the border.

magnus0322

Nah. More like AA gave us ORD and LGA and BB took an opportunity to consolidate bases since he's been saying for years that going forward we'd be a niche carrier serving the NE and Midwest

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magnus0322

That isn't what I said. You Envoy retards are funny though.

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