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Old 02-08-2013 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by snippercr
Relax tiller, no one is taking the flying away from you guys. There is little chance this will hold up. Breathe, easy does it. You will still get an opportunity to tell your friends "I fly for American now too in a big jet!"

But no, SKW/XJT are not operating "Large RJs" ergo they were not included in the filing and they both already had those airframes on hand. Your company is getting fresh off the line ones, something that L-Egl could have done as well (as pointed out in the filing).
Relax? Fairly certain my blood pressure has stayed low throughout this entire process. I didn't and still don't understand what the issue is and would WELCOME any problems brought BB's way. If we could somehow lose this flying or get a new contract without it, I'll gladly take it.

""You will still get an opportunity to tell your friends "I fly for American now too in a big jet!""

You've obviously got some personal issues you need to work out, but my aspirations are wayyy beyond any regional. First interview coming up shortly to get out of this rat hole. Hopefully you're not a lifer and you can get out of it as well.

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Old 02-08-2013 | 01:29 PM
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Default RAH/AE won't last if this keeps up...

BB is way in over his head with pursuing AE if this is what AA can expect. Love it.

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Old 02-08-2013 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
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Also, the fact that they made Eagle take concessions for MILLIONS so we could become competitive and market rate, then they disregarded that, continued to shrink us with no plan for replacements and gave flying away anyway. ......
How did they do that exactly? Was there a gun involved? Last time I checked these were voted by the pilot group. Then, you ended up losing the flying anyway..

I don't have respect for people voting on concessions and then crying foul for flying being taken away..
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Old 02-08-2013 | 04:56 PM
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seattlepilot, please dont confuse some of us with the morons over here, but, what we have here is A FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE. When the no voters were telling the MEC and there lackeys they are wrong to negotiated a concessionary contract on the basis of nothing. When the NO voters were telling the Yessers that there is nothing in the contract guaranteeing anything except furloughs down the line, they new better because the mec was on there side.

Well enjoy the furlough coming in the late fall and your new job at RAH and EJT.
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Old 02-08-2013 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
How did they do that exactly? Was there a gun involved? Last time I checked these were voted by the pilot group. Then, you ended up losing the flying anyway..

I don't have respect for people voting on concessions and then crying foul for flying being taken away..
I voted NO and was a strong advocate at Eagle against the TA. The pilot group was lied too by our union reps, too many of them went along with it.. and the bankruptcy is about the same thing as a gun anyway. There is no WIN for employee's in bankruptcy when the laws are against us. So I really don't care what you think.
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Old 02-09-2013 | 06:06 AM
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So over 5,000 flights canceled this weekend because of the blizzard. How many RAH pilots are not getting paid right now through no fault of thier own? Something for the new guys to think about before they go signing a 24 month ball and chain.
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Old 02-09-2013 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
So over 5,000 flights canceled this weekend because of the blizzard. How many RAH pilots are not getting paid right now through no fault of thier own? Something for the new guys to think about before they go signing a 24 month ball and chain.
I feel sorry for the weekend crews that got flights cancelled. I've talked to a few of my friends who benefited from this. They were on 4 days and got reassigned with a deadhead and/or ferry. The guys I talked to will end up only working 8 hours or less out of 20 and they still get paid for the 20 hrs since they were reassigned, they are protected. After a few years, I'm lucky to have never lost money yet from a cancelled flight (knock on wood)!
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Old 02-09-2013 | 06:43 AM
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ALPA, Egl Vp and AA Vp stated a yes vote would enable them to bid the forthcoming RFP's. Furthermore, time was of the essence - then they made some lame excuse for NOT bidding - that is the bad faith bargaining that is claimed here.
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Old 02-09-2013 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoiler
ALPA, Egl Vp and AA Vp stated a yes vote would enable them to bid the forthcoming RFP's. Furthermore, time was of the essence - then they made some lame excuse for NOT bidding - that is the bad faith bargaining that is claimed here.
Dont forget about the magic"fleet plan". Once we ratified the new POS TA, the "fleet plan" should've been disclosed.

Those clowns knew all about the merger. Now they are covering the "fleet plan" with the merger.
Hence, there is NO fleet plan, no divestiture....never was.
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Old 02-09-2013 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by snippercr
Your company is getting fresh off the line ones, something that L-Egl could have done as well (as pointed out in the filing).
What does L-Egl stand for?
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