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Old 09-10-2015, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr View Post
The company has said many times, both privately and publicly, that it is not willing to return to negotiations.

Anyone with a brain realizes that is the definition of an impasse and a union with any marbles would file suit to get released.

Yet the company stated it would return to the table.

Management will keep coming back and will keep making very slow signs of "progress." If you jump half-way to a goal each time, you'll never actually get there ...but progress is still being made.

Look at the big picture: there is no way the NMB will release the IBT to strike in the run-up to a presidential election. The pilots would just be forced back to work anyway.

This thing has another 3 years in it at least...
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Old 09-10-2015, 09:20 PM
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I don't think you can force anybody to work in this country.
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Old 09-10-2015, 09:29 PM
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Yet the company stated it would return to the table.

Management will keep coming back and will keep making very slow signs of "progress." If you jump half-way to a goal each time, you'll never actually get there ...but progress is still being made.

Look at the big picture: there is no way the NMB will release the IBT to strike in the run-up to a presidential election. The pilots would just be forced back to work anyway.

This thing has another 3 years in it at least...
Where or when did the company say they were returning to the negotiating table? All they agreed to was a meeting in DC with the NMB. Even the local said they don't know what to expect. Hardly sounds like negotiations will definitely be resuming
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Old 09-10-2015, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dupe View Post
Yet the company stated it would return to the table.

Management will keep coming back and will keep making very slow signs of "progress." If you jump half-way to a goal each time, you'll never actually get there ...but progress is still being made.

Look at the big picture: there is no way the NMB will release the IBT to strike in the run-up to a presidential election. The pilots would just be forced back to work anyway.

This thing has another 3 years in it at least...
No they have about 6 months maximim. I believe BB will try Ch11, and if that doesn't work, then it will get bad fast. Oh and BB will be gone within a year regardless. Sucks for the pilots, because they have held the line this long.
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Old 09-10-2015, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dupe View Post
Yet the company stated it would return to the table.

Management will keep coming back and will keep making very slow signs of "progress." If you jump half-way to a goal each time, you'll never actually get there ...but progress is still being made.

Look at the big picture: there is no way the NMB will release the IBT to strike in the run-up to a presidential election. The pilots would just be forced back to work anyway.

This thing has another 3 years in it at least...
No, the company said that they will meet with the mediator as required. They've said nothing about returning to the table.

Republic doesn't have 3 years and bankruptcy will not solve their only issue, that being a lack of pilots willing to work for them.

You may be right about the NMB, which is exactly why I advocate filing suit against them.
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Old 09-11-2015, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe View Post
I don't think you can force anybody to work in this country.
Labor groups for airlines can (and have) been forced back to work.

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No, the company said that they will meet with the mediator as required. They've said nothing about returning to the table.
The mediator called both parties back. Sounds like mediated negotiations to me. The only other outcome is a release announcement -which just isn't going to happen.

Republic doesn't have 3 years and bankruptcy will not solve their only issue, that being a lack of pilots willing to work for them.
Republic is a unique regional in that they own their own jets. Because of that, I think they have the ability to acquire funds for many more years. Look at how long Great Lakes has limped along. Chapter 11 will likely mean that Bedford loses his job... I believe he'll be around for much longer than most realize.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dupe View Post
Yet the company stated it would return to the table.

Management will keep coming back and will keep making very slow signs of "progress." If you jump half-way to a goal each time, you'll never actually get there ...but progress is still being made.

Look at the big picture: there is no way the NMB will release the IBT to strike in the run-up to a presidential election. The pilots would just be forced back to work anyway.

This thing has another 3 years in it at least...
To what end? The company needs a contract more than the pilots at this point.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:41 AM
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Labor groups for airlines can (and have) been forced back to work.
I get that they can be ordered back to work, but what is the "or else"? Are they going to throw me in jail for refusing to fly a plane?
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Old 09-12-2015, 03:01 PM
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I get that they can be ordered back to work, but what is the "or else"? Are they going to throw me in jail for refusing to fly a plane?
The union ringleaders can be jailed for refusing a return to work order. The rest of the schmucks can be penalized financially via the union getting slapped with a fine.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe View Post
I get that they can be ordered back to work, but what is the "or else"? Are they going to throw me in jail for refusing to fly a plane?
I used to work at RAH and I can guarantee it they file Ch11 then attrition will be 100 plus a month. I don't see them getting released either, and of course the politicians would force them back to work anyway. If they did get released a strike would shut the place down in a day.

The biggest issue they have is corporate culture, it sucks there! They care too much about making a profit and corporate culture will always be second to profit. Republic is a very lean company, which is great for investors, but not employees. Great news for the pilots is they can just go somewhere else and get paid more
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