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Cirrusly 03-06-2019 05:14 PM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2776351)
This is really what I'm struggling to understand.

In "whiteout" conditions, flying a visual approach, I would almost understand how you land off runway like that.
But from an ILS with low visibility?
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ILS RWY 01 was OTS

dera 03-06-2019 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by Cirrusly (Post 2776451)
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ILS RWY 01 was OTS
Was it OTS before, or was it OTS'd after the accident as is the standard procedure?

That's even more serious, because the weather was way below the minimums for the GPS RNAV 01.

Cirrusly 03-06-2019 05:29 PM
Yeah looks like they OTS the ils at 1734 on the 4th

CanWeGetTheLeft 03-06-2019 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Cirrusly (Post 2776441)
What’s the tower frequency at an uncontrolled airport again???
As I was.

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet, kids.

cursesRedBaron 03-06-2019 05:59 PM
Think the ILS NOTAM was after the fact.
FAA routinely does that to test it for issues.

ninerdriver 03-06-2019 06:02 PM
Originally Posted by cursesRedBaron (Post 2776490)
Think the ILS NOTAM was after the fact.
FAA routinely does that to test it for issues.
It was after the fact. From the NOTAM times, the airport was closed an hour before the ILS went OTS.

dera 03-06-2019 06:10 PM
The ILS was not NOTAM'd OTS before the incident. And it was the only approach that was legal to shoot at that weather. I think a reasonable conclusion is, that they were shooting the ILS 01.

JoePatroni 03-06-2019 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 2776503)
The ILS was not NOTAM'd OTS before the incident. And it was the only approach that was legal to shoot at that weather. I think a reasonable conclusion is, that they were shooting the ILS 01.

They were, first try was a go around.


http://pilots.ualforums.com/attachme...id=16501&stc=1

TJBrass 03-06-2019 06:49 PM
Way off the LOC when they broke out.

dera 03-06-2019 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by TJBrass (Post 2776530)
Way off the LOC when they broke out.
Full deflection even slightly above mins.


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