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Excargodog 03-06-2019 07:40 PM

This is off the FlightAware radar track, not that those are reliable enough for anything but orientation:

OpMidClimax 03-07-2019 07:18 AM

My company has had a lot of issues with the the localizers indicating on centerline at mins and yet we're over 100 feet displaced from the centerline.

Let's wait for the ntsb report to come out before we throw daggers at our fellow brother and sisters flying the lawn dart and be thankful everyone survived with only minor injuries.

rickair7777 03-07-2019 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by OpMidClimax (Post 2776777)
My company has had a lot of issues with the the localizers indicating on centerline at mins and yet we're over 100 feet displaced from the centerline.

Steam or glass?

sobo 03-07-2019 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2776803)
Steam or glass?

Same airplane, the 145. OP works for PDT.

v1valarob 03-07-2019 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by OpMidClimax (Post 2776777)
My company has had a lot of issues with the the localizers indicating on centerline at mins and yet we're over 100 feet displaced from the centerline.

Let's wait for the ntsb report to come out before we throw daggers at our fellow brother and sisters flying the lawn dart and be thankful everyone survived with only minor injuries.

Quite often I’ll elect to do an RNAV approach over an ILS. Any sort of crosswind and the plane just can’t figure it out.

pangolin 03-07-2019 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by v1valarob (Post 2776829)
Quite often I’ll elect to do an RNAV approach over an ILS. Any sort of crosswind and the plane just can’t figure it out.

Is it the AP or the instruments? Can you do better hand flying the ILS? In the CRJ I can do a better job than the AP tracking a localizer.

OpMidClimax 03-07-2019 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 2776834)
Is it the AP or the instruments? Can you do better hand flying the ILS? In the CRJ I can do a better job than the AP tracking a localizer.

It's an error in the receiver of the 145 localizer when exposed to module.

flynd94 03-07-2019 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by OpMidClimax (Post 2776864)
It's an error in the receiver of the 145 localizer when exposed to module.


I have been on the plane for over 10 years and rarely see that issue.

MySaabStory 03-07-2019 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2776866)
I have been on the plane for over 10 years and rarely see that issue.

Agreed. 10+ years and have never seen what’s been described.

sobo 03-07-2019 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by MySaabStory (Post 2776878)
Agreed. 10+ years and have never seen what’s been described.

Our airplanes track the localizer very erratically. Within the service volume you can get 15-20 degree turns commanded by the FD.

If you look closely it’s the localizer deflecting a degree or two in either direction erratically. Almost as if someone is in the critical area.

I’d say in probably 5/10 of the aircraft I fly at piedmont have this issue. Some pilots prefer to fly in 195RA to tighten the system up to cat II tolerance (if that’s even a thing). I normally just intercept and fly to 3 miles outside the FAF in pink needles before switching to conventional nav.

That being said, this could be entirely apples to oranges. Who knows how our maintenance is at PDT compared to C5


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