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flynd94 03-08-2019 09:21 AM
Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2777713)
My understanding (which might well be wrong) was that the ASOS went down to 1/2 mile vis with heavier brief flurries reported on the ground. White runway surrounded by white snow with inadequate snow removal. Good runway because it's left over from a USAF base closed in the 60s, but the town itself is less than 10,000 population served because it's Essential Air Service. They have neither the personnel nor the equipment to keep a runway cleared to the extent a busier field would.

And many of us have flown into as or more challenging airports in worse conditions. I am not judging but, they weren’t anywhere close to a runway.

If the runway was that bad there is a great alternate 100 miles or so to the south, Bangor, ME. Time to use that command decision as the CA and do what’s safe.

JoePatroni 03-08-2019 10:41 AM
Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2777713)
My understanding (which might well be wrong) was that the ASOS went down to 1/2 mile vis with heavier brief flurries reported on the ground. White runway surrounded by white snow with inadequate snow removal. Good runway because it's left over from a USAF base closed in the 60s, but the town itself is less than 10,000 population served because it's Essential Air Service. They have neither the personnel nor the equipment to keep a runway cleared to the extent a busier field would.
If you’re thinking of Loring AFB, that closed in the late eighties or early nineties and is a separate field.

flynd94 03-08-2019 10:47 AM
Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2777822)
If you’re thinking of Loring AFB, that closed in the late eighties or early nineties and is a separate field.
It was an old Air Defense Base. Shutdown in the 50/60’s

Ni hao 03-08-2019 10:49 AM
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JoePatroni 03-08-2019 11:14 AM
Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2777826)
It was an old Air Defense Base. Shutdown in the 50/60’s
I never knew that. I used to go there all the time and the runway was always in good shape although it was packed snow pretty much all winter.

dera 03-08-2019 11:32 AM
Originally Posted by Ni hao (Post 2777832)
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Just... Wow.

Melit 03-08-2019 11:39 AM
Looks like the nose hit first!

cursesRedBaron 03-08-2019 11:43 AM
THAT's not going to look good on the 'ol resume.

Excargodog 03-08-2019 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2777826)
It was an old Air Defense Base. Shutdown in the 50/60’s
It was also briefly (less than a year) a cruise missile base:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pres...Air_Force_Base

Ala5ka 03-08-2019 04:56 PM
touchdown zone adjacent
Originally Posted by Ni hao (Post 2777832)
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