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dera 03-04-2019 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2774716)
Oh I agree this could be repaired, but this is a 15 year old 145. Replacement of all 3 landing gear, fwd pressure bulkhead, est 5-7 foot gash, belly damage, flaps, possible wing spar damage.

If United really wanted a replacement 50 seater, there is a desert full of them.
Most value in 50 seaters are in the engines, and at least nr1 is toast on this one.

FlyingKat 03-04-2019 01:32 PM
Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2774716)
Oh I agree this could be repaired, but this is a 15 year old 145. Replacement of all 3 landing gear, fwd pressure bulkhead, est 5-7 foot gash, belly damage, flaps, possible wing spar damage.

If United really wanted a replacement 50 seater, there is a desert full of them.
Correction it is a 145 XR. Not very many of those around and UAL is flying all of them, around 90 total. UAL wants to keep all the XRs flying.

Grodt 03-04-2019 01:47 PM
Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma (Post 2774700)
According to pax (I’m paraphrasing), the first approach was discontinued at some point followed by a second approach and ‘hard’ landing with multiple bounces, finally coming to rest well off the rwy.

3/4sm -SN ,1500’ ovc; RCAMs 3/3/3 from what I’ve read. Should have had an ILS available to them from what I can tell.
I think ils is/was notam'd ots

DownInPetaluma 03-04-2019 01:54 PM
The ILS gets notamed OTS after an accident/incident until it can be checked by the feds

intrepidcv11 03-04-2019 02:05 PM
Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2774716)
Oh I agree this could be repaired, but this is a 15 year old 145. Replacement of all 3 landing gear, fwd pressure bulkhead, est 5-7 foot gash, belly damage, flaps, possible wing spar damage.

If United really wanted a replacement 50 seater, there is a desert full of them.
Ready to at last meet beer can destiny...

Blackhawk 03-04-2019 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma (Post 2774700)
According to pax (I’m paraphrasing), the first approach was discontinued at some point followed by a second approach and ‘hard’ landing with multiple bounces, finally coming to rest well off the rwy.

3/4sm -SN ,1500’ ovc; RCAMs 3/3/3 from what I’ve read. Should have had an ILS available to them from what I can tell.
Bounces are an indication of excess energy. Looking at where the nose gear ended up, probably tried to force it on.

MySaabStory 03-04-2019 03:34 PM
This is the best reason to look for a regional with a flowthrough agreement.

DownInPetaluma 03-04-2019 04:02 PM
That’s a main wheel bogey up in tha motor. And a flow-through does what?

Blackhawk 03-04-2019 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma (Post 2774816)
That’s a main wheel bogey up in tha motor. And a flow-through does what?
Thanks. I did not look closely and wrongly assumed a nose gear.
Still... not where it’s supposed to be.

MySaabStory 03-04-2019 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma (Post 2774816)
That’s a main wheel bogey up in tha motor. And a flow-through does what?
Well....As long as they keep their jobs they still have a chance of making it to the majors via a flow. Otherwise this “ding” will make it very difficult to go anywhere.


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