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Prettywhacked1 03-27-2019 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by JonGoodsell764 (Post 2790084)
Was it United 3407 or Colgan 3407? At the end of the day when the dust settles, the legacies will throw their contractors to the wolves in a heartbeat while doing everything in their power to distance themselves from any sort of culpability.

Continental......ahhh Millennials........:eek:

havick206 06-08-2019 07:02 PM

What was the end result for this crew?

PhantomHawk 06-09-2019 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2834050)
What was the end result for this crew?

Nobody is going to answer that here.

poopplop 06-09-2019 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2834050)
What was the end result for this crew?

I can tell you exactly what happened. They survived.

And I'm sure they appreciate your concern!

PhantomHawk 06-09-2019 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by poopplop (Post 2834413)
I can tell you exactly what happened. They survived.

And I'm sure they appreciate your concern!

Most of us are concerned BY them, not FOR them.

Wildflyin 06-10-2019 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2834485)
Most of us are concerned BY them, not FOR them.

Any true aviator is concerned FOR them. Anyone of us could have a truly horrible day, it is just double unfortunate if bad luck has it that both pilots have that bad day at once. Anyone of us flying long enough have had a fellow pilot stop us from committing an egregious error at least once in our careers, and we have at least once stopped a fellow aviator from doing the same. Try some empathy, it will serve you well.

PhantomHawk 06-10-2019 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Wildflyin (Post 2834622)
Any true aviator is concerned FOR them. Anyone of us could have a truly horrible day, it is just double unfortunate if bad luck has it that both pilots have that bad day at once. Anyone of us flying long enough have had a fellow pilot stop us from committing an egregious error at least once in our careers, and we have at least once stopped a fellow aviator from doing the same. Try some empathy, it will serve you well.

In most circumstances, I completely agree with you. At some point, the responsibility to the people behind us who trust us with their lives outweighs any empathy I have. I feel bad for them, but I think they should never fly passengers again. Those sentiments are not mutually exclusive.

Wildflyin 06-10-2019 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2834739)
In most circumstances, I completely agree with you. At some point, the responsibility to the people behind us who trust us with their lives outweighs any empathy I have. I feel bad for them, but I think they should never fly passengers again. Those sentiments are not mutually exclusive.

I hear what you are saying, but there are people whose job it is to make that determination, it is not ours to make. Other people read these boards that are not pilots in the industry, passing judgment here doesn't help anybody.

havick206 06-22-2019 11:01 AM

Sorry i think my post may have been taken out of context. I was curious to see how the company went about things in comparison to the way Envoy has been handling things with incidents.

Excargodog 06-22-2019 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2841432)
Sorry i think my post may have been taken out of context. I was curious to see how the company went about things in comparison to the way Envoy has been handling things with incidents.

No need to apologize.

Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes. Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it. Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them.

George Santayana


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