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Old 05-19-2021, 08:54 AM
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The story said USAF pilots. No personal knowledge.

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Often FMS aircraft are delivered to the purchasing country by USAF personnel. Avoids having to refuel aircraft over the pond with pilots that may or may not know how to AAR. No idea what the scenario was here.
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Old 05-19-2021, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by joepilot View Post
The story said USAF pilots. No personal knowledge.

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What I read in the local paper was “active duty pilots”. Does that include a loophole that may be a USAF pilot and a foreign military pilot. I wonder.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Some USN planes had individual ejection systems, each crew had to pull his own handle to go. There were a few incidents where the NFO got really scared on approach, punched out and the pilot salvaged it, went around and landed. That would be a tough carpet dance. And an even tougher reception in the ready room.
There was also a A6 where the pilot after weeks of heavy weight tanker cat shots decided he had a cold cat shot with a nearly empty A6 and ejected. The NFO had no idea why the pilot left but successfully flew the jet for quite a while by reaching across for the stick. After much discussion it was decided to have the NFO fly by the ship and jump.
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Old 05-19-2021, 11:29 AM
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There was also a A6 where the pilot after weeks of heavy weight tanker cat shots decided he had a cold cat shot with a nearly empty A6 and ejected. The NFO had no idea why the pilot left but successfully flew the jet for quite a while by reaching across for the stick. After much discussion it was decided to have the NFO fly by the ship and jump.
THAT would be hard to explain. Would have been really awkward if the BN had brought the jet back to the boat...
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Old 05-19-2021, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld View Post
What I read in the local paper was “active duty pilots”. Does that include a loophole that may be a USAF pilot and a foreign military pilot. I wonder.
Not implausible. Especially considering the ejection on roll-out scenario...
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Old 05-19-2021, 11:37 AM
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The story has been updated to include a USAF statement that two US active duty pilots were on board. The story has also been improved to call it an "incident," rather than a "crash," and to note that it was raining at the time of the incident.
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Old 05-19-2021, 11:59 AM
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The story has been updated to include a USAF statement that two US active duty pilots were on board. The story has also been improved to call it an "incident," rather than a "crash," and to note that it was raining at the time of the incident.
In my experience, just keeping the canopy closed is adequate for most rain...

And yeah, since they raised the Class A mishap limits, two ejection seats even at $300K each, won’t get you very close.


https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...-eject-safely/
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In a fighter, if you’re heading for the dirt after landing, you better believe they’re ejecting. Loss of nosewheel steering ability, loss of brakes, loss of control due to hydroplaning, whatever the reason, there’s no way I’m sticking around for Mr Toad’s wild ride once we leave the pavement.

Who knows what happened, but loss of directional control (even at somewhat low speeds) would definitely lead to stepping out of the jet.
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Old 05-21-2021, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Some USN planes had individual ejection systems, each crew had to pull his own handle to go. There were a few incidents where the NFO got really scared on approach, punched out and the pilot salvaged it, went around and landed. That would be a tough carpet dance. And an even tougher reception in the ready room.
Ah yes, but did the pilot salvage it due to skill, or luck?
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Old 05-21-2021, 07:49 AM
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Ah yes, but did the pilot salvage it due to skill, or luck?
Dunno.

I'd almost guess there had to have been some backstory, maybe all the BN's knew the pilot as "that guy". Or maybe the BN was the guy who flew every approach with both hands on the handle with tension applied... maybe he was getting out of the mil in two weeks.
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