F-35 crashes off Carl Vinson…
01-24-2022, 04:35 PM
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F-35 crashes off Carl Vinson…
A U.S. military fighter jet crashed while conducting routine flight operations in the South China Sea on Monday, resulting in seven sailors being injured and some needing to be transported for medical treatment on land.
According to the Navy, an F-35C Lightning II assigned to Carrier Air Wing Two crashed on deck due to a landing mishap. The plane had been conducting flight operations for the USS Carl Vinson.
The pilot of the plane was able to eject safely and was recovered via a military helicopter. They are in stable condition, the Navy says.
Three of the seven injured sailors had to be medevaced to Manila, in the Philippines, to receive treatment, while the four others were treated by medical personnel on board the ship. The three sailors who were taken to Manila were reported to be in stable condition.
Three of the four injured sailors who remained on the ship have been released already. An investigation has been opened to determine the cause of the mishap.
The incident occurred not long after one individual was injured when a Navy Seahawk helicopter had to make a crash landing in coastal Virginia. According to local authorities, one member of the helicopter crew had to be transported to a hospital for minor injuries, but the two pilots were largely unharmed.
According to the Navy, an F-35C Lightning II assigned to Carrier Air Wing Two crashed on deck due to a landing mishap. The plane had been conducting flight operations for the USS Carl Vinson.
The pilot of the plane was able to eject safely and was recovered via a military helicopter. They are in stable condition, the Navy says.
Three of the seven injured sailors had to be medevaced to Manila, in the Philippines, to receive treatment, while the four others were treated by medical personnel on board the ship. The three sailors who were taken to Manila were reported to be in stable condition.
Three of the four injured sailors who remained on the ship have been released already. An investigation has been opened to determine the cause of the mishap.
The incident occurred not long after one individual was injured when a Navy Seahawk helicopter had to make a crash landing in coastal Virginia. According to local authorities, one member of the helicopter crew had to be transported to a hospital for minor injuries, but the two pilots were largely unharmed.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/24/polit...sea/index.html
01-25-2022, 06:08 AM
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This kind of thing used to happen on a regular basis, but not so much in the modern era.
Most likely the wire broke... that would cause the crew to eject due to being too slow to fly but too fast stop before the end. The broken wire whips around and injures flight deck crew.
It would be rather more unusual if the aircraft somehow departed the TD/rollout zone and actually hit other objects (or people).
At least nobody died.
Most likely the wire broke... that would cause the crew to eject due to being too slow to fly but too fast stop before the end. The broken wire whips around and injures flight deck crew.
It would be rather more unusual if the aircraft somehow departed the TD/rollout zone and actually hit other objects (or people).
At least nobody died.
01-25-2022, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
This kind of thing used to happen on a regular basis, but not so much in the modern era.
Most likely the wire broke... that would cause the crew to eject due to being too slow to fly but too fast stop before the end. The broken wire whips around and injures flight deck crew.
It would be rather more unusual if the aircraft somehow departed the TD/rollout zone and actually hit other objects (or people).
At least nobody died.
Most likely the wire broke... that would cause the crew to eject due to being too slow to fly but too fast stop before the end. The broken wire whips around and injures flight deck crew.
It would be rather more unusual if the aircraft somehow departed the TD/rollout zone and actually hit other objects (or people).
At least nobody died.
01-25-2022, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
Isn’t the F35 VTOL? Why would they use the wire?
The Marines pay for the VTOL because it gives them tacair jets in places where they otherwise could not have them, aboard large amphib ships (which don't have cats and arresting gear), and also ashore at expeditionary air ops bases with little or no runway. USMC doctrine is fundamentally based on a combined-arms triad of infantry, arty, and air support... take away one leg of that stool and it really messes them up. Their model is also expeditionary, so not reliant on the heavy railroad infrastructure which the Army needs, or the long, wide runways and plush hotels of the USAF.
Even so, the USMC does operate some CTOL F-35C's... they routinely deploy on large-deck carriers and don't need or want VTOL for that.
01-25-2022, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The USN version is conventional T/O and LDG... waaaay too much of a performance (and $) compromise for VTOL.
The Marines pay for the VTOL because it gives them tacair jets in places where they otherwise could not have them, aboard large amphib ships (which don't have cats and arresting gear), and also ashore at expeditionary air ops bases with little or no runway. USMC doctrine is fundamentally based on a combined-arms triad of infantry, arty, and air support... take away one leg of that stool and it really messes them up. Their model is also expeditionary, so not reliant on the heavy railroad infrastructure which the Army needs, or the long, wide runways and plush hotels of the USAF.
The Marines pay for the VTOL because it gives them tacair jets in places where they otherwise could not have them, aboard large amphib ships (which don't have cats and arresting gear), and also ashore at expeditionary air ops bases with little or no runway. USMC doctrine is fundamentally based on a combined-arms triad of infantry, arty, and air support... take away one leg of that stool and it really messes them up. Their model is also expeditionary, so not reliant on the heavy railroad infrastructure which the Army needs, or the long, wide runways and plush hotels of the USAF.
01-25-2022, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
Unfortunately, they are almost all gone now. No good deal goes unpunished in today’s AF.
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