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Old 02-04-2023, 09:46 PM
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I wouldn't really call this a near miss. FedEx was cleared to land while a few miles away. SWA was cleared to takeoff causing FedEx to go around:

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/04/11545...west-plane-faa
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Old 02-05-2023, 06:20 AM
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A FedEx 767 came within ~30' of spreading LUV in AUS. Seems like bad WX and some poor SA from several folks almost resulted in a really bad day. Tower reported RVR of 1200/600/1600


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Old 02-05-2023, 06:29 AM
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This now passes aviation news? That happened to me, just before I retired, I missed the news of imminent demise, I guess.
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Old 02-05-2023, 06:45 AM
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I dunno. I’d say 25’ counts as “pretty close”.
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Old 02-05-2023, 07:01 AM
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Somebody over at A.net (yes, I know) posted a video overlaying the two Flight Aware tracks. Yes, very scary actually.
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Old 02-05-2023, 07:15 AM
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Kudos to the FedEx crew. In AUS I’ve continued and landed when everyone was too close possibly reinforcing this bad behavior. If I had gone around we would only have been separated vertically. There must be more to this than a go-around.
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Old 02-05-2023, 08:11 AM
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Old 02-05-2023, 08:25 AM
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1000 rvr, asking for and granting a takeoff clearance with an aircraft 3 miles out is (fill in the blank).
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Old 02-05-2023, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AZFlyer View Post
Why would a controller clear an aircraft for takeoff during CATIII operations (600 RVR lowest reported) when an arriving aircraft is at 3 miles? The approach fix is at 3.2 miles.

Second, why would the Southwest jet accept a takeoff clearance this close during these conditions? Isn't the ILS Critical Area supposed to be sterile for arriving aircraft approach fix to landing?
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FedEx called the SWA abort. Awesome SA from
FedEx. If SWA had taken off the FedEx go around would have been interesting. FedEx saved this all the way.
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