PC-12 Air Ambulance Crash NV
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PC-12 Air Ambulance Crash NV
https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-new...-crash-nevada/
Juan suspects Spatial D, but I'm not so sure about that with a professional pilot (who sounded alert), and a modern glass cockpit. Not even a mayday?
Hypoxia perhaps, or pilot incapacitation? But even so, odd that he'd be hand flying in the flight levels on a night like that. Maybe severe icing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDwognXbUPE
Juan suspects Spatial D, but I'm not so sure about that with a professional pilot (who sounded alert), and a modern glass cockpit. Not even a mayday?
Hypoxia perhaps, or pilot incapacitation? But even so, odd that he'd be hand flying in the flight levels on a night like that. Maybe severe icing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDwognXbUPE
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Legacy AP is $h!t and jumps ship at the first sign off TURB. What happens next is up the Captain and his attention level.My question on the data is how do you go from 3000+ fpm climb to 800 fpm descent in 13 seconds with only 3 kts of change in ASI?
This data is suspect as that climb, time, and ASI are not correlating to actual Legacy performance.
This data is suspect as that climb, time, and ASI are not correlating to actual Legacy performance.
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For a PPL, pick any two. I flew in IMC as a PPL just fine.
For a professional, you should be able to handle any three in a glass turbine airplane, and frankly people do all four all the time.
But this guy doesn't look like a time-building kid, and didn't sound like he was under any pressure.
My gut feel is that there was something mechanical, and it was bad. No radio call...
For a professional, you should be able to handle any three in a glass turbine airplane, and frankly people do all four all the time.
But this guy doesn't look like a time-building kid, and didn't sound like he was under any pressure.
My gut feel is that there was something mechanical, and it was bad. No radio call...
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Legacy AP is $h!t and jumps ship at the first sign off TURB. What happens next is up the Captain and his attention level.My question on the data is how do you go from 3000+ fpm climb to 800 fpm descent in 13 seconds with only 3 kts of change in ASI?
This data is suspect as that climb, time, and ASI are not correlating to actual Legacy performance.
This data is suspect as that climb, time, and ASI are not correlating to actual Legacy performance.
Presumably this guy would *know* how his AP will behave. Presumably it has an alarm when it disconnects. He didn't have to hand fly a full approach, just climb with the CDI centered. Not real hard.
Unless he was a low-time career changer with little actual, but we'll know soon enough.
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I last flew that aircraft in 2015..
I am devastated..
I last flew that aircraft in August 2015, from BIH to RNO, with a Cancer patient headed to Renown Medical Center. Then, I was a cancer patient the next day and out of flying for 2.5 years. There is a GoFundMe under the CareFlight search. Thank you for everyone’s concern.
I last flew that aircraft in August 2015, from BIH to RNO, with a Cancer patient headed to Renown Medical Center. Then, I was a cancer patient the next day and out of flying for 2.5 years. There is a GoFundMe under the CareFlight search. Thank you for everyone’s concern.
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The back side of those mountains, in that area, is an ice-producer that builds it fast enough to watch it grow as if one were seeing a time-lapse film, and it builds a lot. The region is a black hole.
I flew air ambulance out there, although not in single engine airplanes.
Flights in and out of those places have some of the tallest terrain in the lower 48 to deal with, and the turbulence that goes with it, and the icing that goes with it, and in many cases, the lack of places to put an aircraft down, if one could see, that goes with it, too.
Fortunately, we have Juan, and he can solve the mystery long before the facts are in, or the investigation is complete. Eventually, there will be no need for the NTSB. Just ask Juan, and file the report. Speculation: it's what makes professionalism great.
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Nature hates a vacuum and the NTSB leaves a vacuum for months to years in getting their reports out. I know a good mishap investigation takes time, but it shouldn’t take six months or a year which is frequently the case with the NTSB. In the absence of a prompt report, people WILL speculate.
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I wholeheartedly disagree with you on this.
Pick your battles.
Makes you wonder how much pressure he was under to go.
Don’t know what kind of money we’re talking about for the certificate holder but if the insurance picks up the bill these are money makers.
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Nature hates a vacuum and the NTSB leaves a vacuum for months to years in getting their reports out. I know a good mishap investigation takes time, but it shouldn’t take six months or a year which is frequently the case with the NTSB. In the absence of a prompt report, people WILL speculate.
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