And another no-clearance takeoff - MDW
03-22-2023 | 12:42 PM
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And another no-clearance takeoff - MDW
https://youtu.be/RdYh_j_0Pi8
Envoy 338 told to "line up and wait" on 13R. SWA 2683 is on short final for 4R. Envoy starts rolling, SWA is sent around. It doesn't look like they were that close this time.
The airlines really need to mandate a "cleared to takeoff" switch. Most the places I worked we used the landing lights. They didn't come on until we got takeoff clearance.
Envoy 338 told to "line up and wait" on 13R. SWA 2683 is on short final for 4R. Envoy starts rolling, SWA is sent around. It doesn't look like they were that close this time.
The airlines really need to mandate a "cleared to takeoff" switch. Most the places I worked we used the landing lights. They didn't come on until we got takeoff clearance.
03-22-2023 | 01:09 PM
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03-22-2023 | 02:29 PM
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Landing side 10,000 feet, ding the FAs, wing landing lights on.
Cleared for approach taxi light on.
Cleared to land, landing light on.
Thanks to B K, the LCA who did my OE. "Hardest part of that seat is the light switches" he had his compliant with policy technique, explained the pro/con to them real well, but made them "suggestions vs my way during OE"
I had been out of the cockpit for almost two years between Covid, reserve deployment and surgery and new to the Airbus when I upgraded. Fantastic LCA.
It made sense, I ran with it.
Cleared for approach taxi light on.
Cleared to land, landing light on.
Thanks to B K, the LCA who did my OE. "Hardest part of that seat is the light switches" he had his compliant with policy technique, explained the pro/con to them real well, but made them "suggestions vs my way during OE"
I had been out of the cockpit for almost two years between Covid, reserve deployment and surgery and new to the Airbus when I upgraded. Fantastic LCA.
It made sense, I ran with it.
03-22-2023 | 04:11 PM
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Lucked out... it was the middle of a four-day but at my hometown and the controller and I had met at a party once. Sometimes better to be lucky than good.
03-22-2023 | 04:20 PM
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03-22-2023 | 05:29 PM
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https://youtu.be/RdYh_j_0Pi8
Envoy 338 told to "line up and wait" on 13R. SWA 2683 is on short final for 4R. Envoy starts rolling, SWA is sent around.
Envoy 338 told to "line up and wait" on 13R. SWA 2683 is on short final for 4R. Envoy starts rolling, SWA is sent around.
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what, too soon?
03-22-2023 | 09:22 PM
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https://fireaviation.com/2023/03/22/...fd-helicopter/
SWA and a Los Angeles fire helicopter at Burbank. SWA went around.
SWA and a Los Angeles fire helicopter at Burbank. SWA went around.
03-22-2023 | 10:14 PM
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https://fireaviation.com/2023/03/22/...fd-helicopter/
SWA and a Los Angeles fire helicopter at Burbank. SWA went around.
SWA and a Los Angeles fire helicopter at Burbank. SWA went around.
Just another day in BUR. My all-time personal best for departure RA's was three, on a sunny Sunday afternoon.
