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Old 12-14-2023, 05:17 PM
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I would say it wasn't nearly as bad as drug running, and he was very young when it happened. He initially made an honest mistake, and then doubled down by lying about what he saw because he was afraid of incorrectly assumed consequences. I could tolerate him being in 121 years later, assuming he learned his lesson and isn't some kind of wingnut.
I'd normally agree Rick, but he also lied about the conviction when at his 1st regional. He then unsurprisingly got pulled out of class, ask about why he lied, then still denied that he hid anything. Then the CP printed the news article to show to his face and then was fired on the spot. That shows a patten of reallyyy bad behavior from which he has not learned.

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sorry, I had to say it before someone else did.
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Old 12-15-2023, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
I would say it wasn't nearly as bad as drug running, and he was very young when it happened. He initially made an honest mistake, and then doubled down by lying about what he saw because he was afraid of incorrectly assumed consequences. I could tolerate him being in 121 years later, assuming he learned his lesson and isn't some kind of wingnut.
He went to 121 after getting fired from 135 after showing up to work drunk.

Unfortunately the 135 just fired him and didn't throw the DOT book at him.

He didn't "make an honest mistake". He never saw a thing, he just wanted to cause a stir.
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Old 12-16-2023, 07:36 AM
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OK, the rest of his history is more than enough for 121 no-go if it were up to me.


The story of the S&R was that he did see a flare, and then the whole thing got blown out of proportion.
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Old 12-16-2023, 03:23 PM
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OK, the rest of his history is more than enough for 121 no-go if it were up to me.

You wonder how he ended up at a major (ULCC). Its not like he made a legit mistake and drove home from a party with literally one too many and blew a 0.09%. I could absolutely forgive that after 2 yrs or so of no other issues.

Are ULCC already THAT desperate that they'll take guys who have not only been convicted of felonies, but lied about them, got pulled out of class, and then were fired for such?? SMH....
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Old 12-16-2023, 06:26 PM
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OK, the rest of his history is more than enough for 121 no-go if it were up to me.


The story of the S&R was that he did see a flare, and then the whole thing got blown out of proportion.
He didn't see a flare, he just wanted to stir the pot. 5 years later he still thought it was funny.
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Old 01-06-2024, 11:24 AM
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Peter does a pretty good summary of this event, from an airline pilot perspective....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=988j2-4CdgM
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Very good. I commend watching it, to everyone.
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