Originally Posted by Lileskimo (Post 3747802)

Why is the FO on 1282 ASKING atc for lower altitudes or turns? Has everyone collectively forgotten about emergency authority? You don't ASK atc in a situation like this you execute and then tell them what you're doing

Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3748352)

Maybe they didn't want to initiate a rapid descent right into another airplane below them?

Originally Posted by Jet J (Post 3748372)

don’t take him seriously. Guys a troll who can’t get hired at a legacy. 🤡

Originally Posted by Jet J (Post 3748372)

don’t take him seriously. Guys a troll who can’t get hired at a legacy. 🤡

Originally Posted by Lileskimo (Post 3747802)

Not trolling. I've worked for error group and seen first hand the lack of safety. Particularly the extremely low standards for pilot training. Why is the FO on 1282 ASKING atc for lower altitudes or turns? Has everyone collectively forgotten about emergency authority? You don't ASK atc in a situation like this you execute and then tell them what you're doing. This crew would've flown 100s of miles away from PDX until they got a blessing from ATC.

Originally Posted by magiccarpet (Post 3747770)

Hearing some noise now that the crew may have been trying to control the pressure manually. Seems like this plane was having issues with its auto controllers. Is it possible that they inadvertently closed the valve completely, overwhelming the two pressure relief valves causing the door to blow out like it did? Seems like these plug doors would be the next weakest thing to give way.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3748395)

Really strange post. You do know they were at 16,000 feet correct? Zero need to rush anything. In very high performance aircraft the first rule in a emergency is wind the clock. Getting ATC clearance was the prudent and correct course. They declared a emergency and received excellent atc help.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3748397)

Its not possible. The door appears to have more or less fallen out. There is no apparent damage to the aircraft. The plugs are also as strong or stronger than a door. The overpressure relief valves would also have needed to fail. I bet money in the end the proper fasteners were not in place and the door shifted during unpressurized periods until the lugs were barely engaged leading to the plug loss as the aircraft started to pressurize.