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FreqFlyer 01-07-2024 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Lileskimo (Post 3747650)
It's really time for Alaskan to be shutdown. Flight 261 2.0 is right around the corner. Them and southwest, worst safety culture I've ever witnessed.

Actually, they ranked #1 safest of all U.S. based carriers…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabe...h=5e3463044c03

So now what do you say? TROLL…

MinRest 01-07-2024 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Lileskimo (Post 3747650)
It's really time for Alaskan to be shutdown. Flight 261 2.0 is right around the corner. Them and southwest, worst safety culture I've ever witnessed.

Clowwwwwwwwwwwn

Khantahr 01-07-2024 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by FreqFlyer (Post 3747719)
Actually, they ranked #1 safest of all U.S. based carriers…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabe...h=5e3463044c03

So now what do you say? TROLL…

He is trolling, but those "safest airline" rankings are meaningless BS also.

magiccarpet 01-08-2024 01:26 AM

Hearing some noise now that the crew may have been trying to control the pressure manually. Seems like this plane was having issues with its auto controllers. Is it possible that they inadvertently closed the valve completely, overwhelming the two pressure relief valves causing the door to blow out like it did? Seems like these plug doors would be the next weakest thing to give way.

Lileskimo 01-08-2024 04:33 AM

Not trolling. I've worked for error group and seen first hand the lack of safety. Particularly the extremely low standards for pilot training. Why is the FO on 1282 ASKING atc for lower altitudes or turns? Has everyone collectively forgotten about emergency authority? You don't ASK atc in a situation like this you execute and then tell them what you're doing. This crew would've flown 100s of miles away from PDX until they got a blessing from ATC.

Mandrake 01-08-2024 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Lileskimo (Post 3747802)
Not trolling. I've worked for error group and seen first hand the lack of safety. Particularly the extremely low standards for pilot training. Why is the FO on 1282 ASKING atc for lower altitudes or turns? Has everyone collectively forgotten about emergency authority? You don't ASK atc in a situation like this you execute and then tell them what you're doing. This crew would've flown 100s of miles away from PDX until they got a blessing from ATC.

I suggest you stop before you lose all credibility. This forum welcomes aviation enthusiasts but not with your poor attitude.

Jetlikespeed 01-08-2024 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Lileskimo (Post 3747802)
Not trolling. I've worked for error group and seen first hand the lack of safety. Particularly the extremely low standards for pilot training. Why is the FO on 1282 ASKING atc for lower altitudes or turns? Has everyone collectively forgotten about emergency authority? You don't ASK atc in a situation like this you execute and then tell them what you're doing. This crew would've flown 100s of miles away from PDX until they got a blessing from ATC.

Buddy work at horizon for 100 hours before getting hired at frontier and is an expert on 121 AQP programs 🤡

FAR121 01-08-2024 05:52 AM

The cockpit voice recorder data on the Alaska Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 9 jet which lost a panel mid-flight on Friday was overwritten, U.S. authorities said, renewing attention on an industry call for longer in-flight recordings.

National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) chair Jennifer Homendy said on Sunday no data was available on the cockpit voice recorder because it was not retrieved within two hours - when recording restarts, erasing previous data.

Did someone forget that part of the NTSB checklist or was the flight from and back to PDX so long that the CVR ended up hitting the 2 hour mark and overwriting itself?

Red Forman 01-08-2024 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Lileskimo (Post 3747802)
Not trolling. I've worked for error group and seen first hand the lack of safety. Particularly the extremely low standards for pilot training. Why is the FO on 1282 ASKING atc for lower altitudes or turns? Has everyone collectively forgotten about emergency authority? You don't ASK atc in a situation like this you execute and then tell them what you're doing. This crew would've flown 100s of miles away from PDX until they got a blessing from ATC.

You are the village idiot in the town of village idiots.

Margaritaville 01-08-2024 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by magiccarpet (Post 3747678)
This wasn't Alaska's fault. But thanks for your aviation expertise.

Not that the troll claiming Alaska should get shut down is correct but it was in fact Alaska's failure to properly maintain the jackscrew that was listed as a primary cause of AS 261.

Irrelevant to this discussion however because it's extremely unlikely this was Alaska's fault on a brand new airplane.


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