Actually, they ranked #1 safest of all U.S. based carriers…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabe...h=5e3463044c03

So now what do you say? TROLL…

Clowwwwwwwwwwwn

He is trolling, but those "safest airline" rankings are meaningless BS also.

Hearing some noise now that the crew may have been trying to control the pressure manually. Seems like this plane was having issues with its auto controllers. Is it possible that they inadvertently closed the valve completely, overwhelming the two pressure relief valves causing the door to blow out like it did? Seems like these plug doors would be the next weakest thing to give way.

Not trolling. I've worked for error group and seen first hand the lack of safety. Particularly the extremely low standards for pilot training. Why is the FO on 1282 ASKING atc for lower altitudes or turns? Has everyone collectively forgotten about emergency authority? You don't ASK atc in a situation like this you execute and then tell them what you're doing. This crew would've flown 100s of miles away from PDX until they got a blessing from ATC.

I suggest you stop before you lose all credibility. This forum welcomes aviation enthusiasts but not with your poor attitude.

Buddy work at horizon for 100 hours before getting hired at frontier and is an expert on 121 AQP programs 🤡

The cockpit voice recorder data on the Alaska Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 9 jet which lost a panel mid-flight on Friday was overwritten, U.S. authorities said, renewing attention on an industry call for longer in-flight recordings.

National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) chair Jennifer Homendy said on Sunday no data was available on the cockpit voice recorder because it was not retrieved within two hours - when recording restarts, erasing previous data.

Did someone forget that part of the NTSB checklist or was the flight from and back to PDX so long that the CVR ended up hitting the 2 hour mark and overwriting itself?

You are the village idiot in the town of village idiots.

Not that the troll claiming Alaska should get shut down is correct but it was in fact Alaska's failure to properly maintain the jackscrew that was listed as a primary cause of AS 261.

Irrelevant to this discussion however because it's extremely unlikely this was Alaska's fault on a brand new airplane.

i highly doubt AK MX would be to blame. They would state the case that even if they needed to put the pressurisation Auto system on MEL that the plug could have fallen off even on AUTO mode. Would have taken enough cycles. Not armchair QBing how the crew handled the manual pressurising system but who knows.

no way that’s this doofuses background right? 🤣🤣

Article on Reuters says they found the door… so that’s good. Article also said that the decompression was strong enough to “blow the cockpit door open”…. which seems odd for a number of reasons. Can anyone confirm that happening?

Article on Reuters says they found the door… so that’s good. Article also said that the decompression was strong enough to “blow the cockpit door open”…. which seems odd for a number of reasons. Can anyone confirm that happening?

A recent rapid depressurization at Delta also blew the cockpit door open. Those little cockpit door vents always seem like there's some slop in the fittings. If the can't let enough air pass, then I can see the door glowing open.

recurring pressurization issues?

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/08/12234...laska-airlines

My armchair diagnosis is that this is complete clickbait. No correlation to the blowout.

If the airplane was over pressurizing, people would have noticed. There were no blown ear drums. The PSI delta was probably around 2-4.

Journalism paranoia.

What exactly is this?

Found the plug: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDWAFwJa...name=4096x4096

It's a 73, were the blow out vents even invented yet when they designed the door? I kid. Sorta. Not really. 🤣🤣

This article says United found problems on 5 aircraft:

https://theaircurrent.com/feed/dispa...9-inspections/

Maybe they didn't want to initiate a rapid descent right into another airplane below them?

don’t take him seriously. Guys a troll who can’t get hired at a legacy. 🤡

buddys a 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

He also just got fired from APC.

Really strange post. You do know they were at 16,000 feet correct? Zero need to rush anything. In very high performance aircraft the first rule in a emergency is wind the clock. Getting ATC clearance was the prudent and correct course. They declared a emergency and received excellent atc help.

Its not possible. The door appears to have more or less fallen out. There is no apparent damage to the aircraft. The plugs are also as strong or stronger than a door. The overpressure relief valves would also have needed to fail. I bet money in the end the proper fasteners were not in place and the door shifted during unpressurized periods until the lugs were barely engaged leading to the plug loss as the aircraft started to pressurize.

It was the kind of post that comes from either A: someone who isn’t a professional pilot or B: a 🤡 working at frontier (scary). Heck it’s probably both! He’s banned now anyway.

If you guys haven't seen Downfall: The Case Against Boeing, you should. It's quite eye opening.

https://www.netflix.com/title/81272421

and the NTSB said it was in auto not MAN as the secondary controller in auto took over so the system as functioning as it should

Pretty sure the QRH drives you to attempt and control the cabin pressure manually, so it shouldn't be a surprise if they did in fact make that effort.

Man the Monday morning quarterbacking is great. Imagine you're climbing out of PDX on a normal ass day, through 10 and you start chatting about how Biden is destroying America, and at 15,000' you hear a loud ass horn and it takes you 10 seconds to realize you're in a rapid D situation. You follow your memory items, call for QRC, and then have to worry that a bunch of mouth breather on APC question your decision making not realizing in 45 seconds that an ENTIRE PANEL blew off your airplane. Y'all at Delta and Frontier get that on your LOFTs as a common occurance? An entire piece of your airplane blows clean off your airplane because of defective bolts?

I didn’t convey what I was attempting to say well, that’s on me, In the NTSB brief it sounded like the controller switch was still in auto as in only 1 channel of the auto made failed the 2nd channel was operating as it should therefore keeping the switch in auto. They are saying as of now they do not think this was a cause. NTSB says it was MAN but was in auto

https://www.youtube.com/live/kGWLBLb...kGUiXAvYtFemqo
Around 8:50 in you can listen sounds like it was in auto still functioning as it should

WSJ reporting:

"What the flight crew didn’t know at the time, federal investigators said Monday, was that it was supposed to happen that way. Boeing had designed the cockpit door to open during a rapid decompression incident, they said. The company just hadn’t said so in the manual."

Boeing says the cockpit door is supposed to blow open during a rapid D.

Amazing. Have you guys ever heard this?

The entire door doesn't open. The "doggy door" on the bottom and the top open. It's in the Boeing system handbook under general. Those panels aren't there for dogs...

Same on Airbus.

I actually was responding to magiccarpet. Your post jives with my understanding of the situation.

Looks like the blowout panels are only for a loss forward of the cockpit bulkhead. For an aft rapid decompression, apparently the door is designed to open.

I think they should have told some of us

At least let the people know who stand in the direction of travel of that door... Sounds like it hit the forward lav door so violently that it could have hurt someone.

They were at 16,000 feet. Seat belt sign would have been on and no one but maybe FAs would be walking in cabin. If it happened at cruise in mid 30’s probably would have been a hull loss anyhow.