Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Pilot Lounge > Safety
Boeing can't find paperwork for door plug >

Boeing can't find paperwork for door plug

Search

Notices
Safety Accidents, suggestions on improving safety, etc

Boeing can't find paperwork for door plug

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-10-2024 | 12:29 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,208
Likes: 6
Thumbs down Boeing can't find paperwork for door plug

"Amid a federal investigation into what caused a door plug to blow off a Boeing 737 Max 9 jet in January, a Boeing top official said the company cannot find documents about the door plug and it's likely that such records never existed.

Ziad Ojakli, the executive vice president of government operations at Boeing, said employees looked "extensively" and failed to turn up any paperwork about the "opening and closing of the door plug," he said in a letter to Washington Sen. Maria Cantwell on Friday.

According to Ojakli, Boeing's working hypothesis is that "the documents required by our processes were not created when the door plug was opened.""



SOURCE:

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/09/12372...-investigation
Reply
Old 03-10-2024 | 04:48 AM
  #2  
Line Holder
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 364
Likes: 0
Default

https://www.wsj.com/business/airline...owout-d4cdfa6d

This WSJ article is behind a paywall, but the headline itself is troubling.

I wonder if this isn't just some arm-twisting because Boeing is not being totally cooperative.
Reply
Old 03-10-2024 | 07:28 AM
  #3  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,931
Likes: 699
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Criminal investigation opened...

https://www.newsnationnow.com/busine...investigation/
Reply
Old 03-10-2024 | 12:30 PM
  #4  
captjns's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
10M Airline Miles
20 Years
150 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,217
Likes: 52
From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Default

Simple... the dog ate the paperwork.
Reply
Old 03-10-2024 | 02:41 PM
  #5  
Line Holder
Veteran: Air Force
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 565
Likes: 6
From: Poolside
Default

Originally Posted by captjns
Simple... the dog ate the paperwork.
Not quite so simple. The FAA has shutdown significant operations for this kind of failure, and Boeing is currently in their crosshairs. They better get their act together.
Reply
Old 03-10-2024 | 05:05 PM
  #6  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,931
Likes: 699
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Originally Posted by Peabody17
Not quite so simple. The FAA has shutdown significant operations for this kind of failure, and Boeing is currently in their crosshairs. They better get their act together.
Boeing, last I heard, is the largest US exporter by $ value. FAA is not going to just yank their cert like some fly-by-night 135 outfit.

Boeing knows that, and may have taken full advantage of that knowledge.
Reply
Old 03-10-2024 | 06:08 PM
  #7  
Excargodog's Avatar
Perennial Reserve
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 14,194
Likes: 240
Default

Originally Posted by captjns
Simple... the dog ate the paperwork.
Actually, the paperwork was inadvertently left on the door plug behind the cabin wall. It is currently somewhere in northern Oregon and/or southern Washington State, no doubt sitting very close to where D. B. Cooper and the remains of his $200k came to rest.
Reply
Old 03-10-2024 | 08:54 PM
  #8  
Disinterested Third Party
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,758
Likes: 74
Default

Aviation maintenance lives and dies by paperwork. However, it may be in the better intrest of Boeing if the paperwork is not available in this case.
Reply
Old 03-11-2024 | 09:06 AM
  #9  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Mar 2023
Posts: 234
Likes: 23
From: Cramped 737 Left Seat
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
Hmmm, I’m no conspiracy theorist. But I am a coincidence noticer. So they expect people to believe that miraculously, when a criminal investigation is opened, the paperwork somehow just disappeared. Yeah right. Absolutely pathetic.
Reply
Old 03-11-2024 | 05:05 PM
  #10  
EyeKantEven's Avatar
Clean it up - make it BIG
 
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 248
Likes: 5
From: B737NG forward-facing aft lav
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
Boeing, last I heard, is the largest US exporter by $ value. FAA is not going to just yank their cert like some fly-by-night 135 outfit.

Boeing knows that, and may have taken full advantage of that knowledge.
Exactly.

FAA is a powerful agency OF the government...

Boeing IS the government.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
docav8tor
Major
24
11-10-2022 07:01 PM
docav8tor
Southwest
7
12-23-2020 09:17 AM
docav8tor
Major
7
11-20-2020 09:41 PM
docav8tor
Safety
5
01-12-2020 01:16 PM
fireman0174
Major
16
04-18-2007 09:33 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices