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Old 08-10-2024 | 09:20 PM
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Sounds like a crappy design if a prop governor failure can cause such a serious situation. So much for that 10^-9 hour catastroptic failure standard.
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Old 08-11-2024 | 04:18 AM
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Old 09-07-2024 | 08:01 PM
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Old 09-08-2024 | 07:15 AM
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Old 09-08-2024 | 10:41 PM
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Pretty unbeliveable level of stupidity.

Should charge the pilots with murder.
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Old 09-09-2024 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Pretty unbeliveable level of stupidity.

Should charge the pilots with murder.
posthumously?
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Old 09-09-2024 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Pretty unbeliveable level of stupidity.

Should charge the pilots with murder.
Some countries actually do that. Not sure about posthumously.
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Old 09-13-2024 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Some countries actually do that. Not sure about posthumously.
It's actually somewhat common, they would file charges then dismiss because the subject is dead.
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Old 09-18-2024 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
No idea on the cause of this, but that right there is a big killer. There are a few that were lucky enough to fly away from it to live another day...
Since ice doesn't normally hang around long post crash that makes the investigation difficult.

That said we all pretty much know what happened with obvious mistakes made on Colgan but I've always wondered what the crew especially the captain thought they were dealing with in that startling few moments. I.E. Tailplane icing?

Some guesswork and assumptions required.

Since the crew was unable to be interviewed no way to really know.
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Old 09-18-2024 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by aeroengineer
Since ice doesn't normally hang around long post crash that makes the investigation difficult.

That said we all pretty much know what happened with obvious mistakes made on Colgan but I've always wondered what the crew especially the captain thought they were dealing with in that startling few moments. I.E. Tailplane icing?
The CA was utterly exhausted and utterly inept. He wasn't thinking at all.

The FO might just barely possibly have thought there was tailplane icing since she retracted the flaps she had just extended, without being told to do so. That would be a mitigation for tailplane icing, but she was exhausted too. I don't think either of them engaging in phd level thought processes.
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