Brakes set Cleared 2 land (JetBlue NTSB)
09-24-2010, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
But what if you had gone through the normal arming process, took off, never disarmed it, and then landed?
09-24-2010, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot
You can leave the switch in TO, but the arming switch moves from ARM to DISARM by retracting the gear. If you try to rearm it for landing, it won't work because the flaps will be greater than 26 degrees with the brake switch in TO position.
09-24-2010, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
NTSB: Parking brake error behind JetBlue tyre fire, evacuation
Perhaps if they were flying a transcon turn they would have not made this mistake?
Perhaps if they were flying a transcon turn they would have not made this mistake?
09-24-2010, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Logger
It was not a transcon turn. Pilots are not assigned to fly more than 8 hours flight time in one duty period at jetblue. It was however an unfortunate incident.
Guess the transcon turn experiment by b6 a few years ago has gained enough traction to assist in the decline of the profession.(Flamebait deleted. )
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09-24-2010, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dba74
I'm surprised that the A-320 allows this to happen with all the fail-safes onboard.
I had to look it up as I wasn't sure myself: as it reads in the FCOM, there is supposed to be a Master Caution (single chime & Master Light)with the E/WD: Failure Title PARK BRK ON if the brake is ON from lift off until touch down. Not sure what happened this time.
Also a surprise- current A320 manuals say that MAX autobrake cannot be set in flight. I remember from initial we were told that it was not recommended, not that it was not possible.
09-24-2010, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by solinator
Probably unrelated but I always wondered - on the A320, right after take off: do the wheels brake to a stop before retracting into the gear bay?
09-24-2010, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Really, can't fly over eight? <tic>.
Perhaps at 500TT when you were hired at UAL you didn't understand the difference between "assigned"(Logger) and actually "fly over" (you) 8 hours, but you shold know by now?? Maybe its a reading comprehension thing?
Originally Posted by Lambourne
We better change the FAR's to accommodate the wishes of the B6 pilot group. Oh, wait we are already doing that.....
take two with a full glass of water on an empty stomach and it'll be all better tomorrow
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09-24-2010, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dundem
I had to look it up as I wasn't sure myself: as it reads in the FCOM, there is supposed to be a Master Caution (single chime & Master Light)with the E/WD: Failure Title PARK BRK ON if the brake is ON from lift off until touch down. Not sure what happened this time.
Originally Posted by dundem
Also a surprise- current A320 manuals say that MAX autobrake cannot be set in flight. I remember from initial we were told that it was not recommended, not that it was not possible.
09-24-2010, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Really, can't fly over eight? <tic>. We better change the FAR's to accommodate the wishes of the B6 pilot group. Oh, wait we are already doing that.....
Guess the transcon turn experiment by b6 a few years ago has gained enough traction to assist in the decline of the profession. ************************
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Guess the transcon turn experiment by b6 a few years ago has gained enough traction to assist in the decline of the profession. ************************
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Last edited by acl65pilot; 09-24-2010 at 05:34 PM.
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