satpak77

In some hangar discussion at my place, the technique of "approach flaps only" landing was discussed as a possible strategy when dealing with landings in high winds. Some guys claim "the plane will do it, so therefore its ok" however my position was:

1. The Beech POH/AFM/etc has published checklists for FULL DOWN FLAP landings ("normal" landings) and ZERO/NO FLAP LANDINGS only.

2. Spin off from #1, no published landing distance charts exist for "approach flap landings". As we all know, the PIC is required to be familiar with the landing distance required for the particular flight.

3. Aerodynamically, a takeoff can be conducted with approach flaps, as it reduces runway takeoff length, however my non-Embry Riddle opinion is this actually will impede your ability to land it (flare, etc) because it gives more lift than it does drag. (acknowedgement that this is weak explanation but...)

Looking for discussion on how to "put this to rest" at my place

FAR cites always welcome

deadstick35

For #2, there is a company, maybe AeroData, that derives this data. I went a few rounds with HBC on getting it for the 200 and 58 (so we could have legal data) but they didn't want to touch that with a 10ft pole. I think the benefit from the approach flaps is that is does generate more lift and allows you to safety operate at a lower airspeed (Vref) than Flaps 0.

rickair7777

You could always use the zero flaps LDG distance...if you're good on that you should be good for any flap setting assuming you get it planted within the TDZ.

USMCFLYR

We just had this discussion yesterday and our instructor came to the same conclusion as you did.
No information available to you, therefore under the legal beagle eyes you did something outside of the normal (excepted) operations.
He said that the manuals direcdted that all landings be made at FULL flaps, the exception being a NO FLAP landing whivch is covered in the Emergency Procedures.
Anything else and you are trying to be a test pilot and the lawyers will eat you (or your company) alive.
[paraphrased from his comments]

USMCFLYR