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AZFlyer 04-12-2011 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Stallog (Post 979408)

Nope. Definitely an A380.

A10crewdawg 04-12-2011 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Stallog (Post 979408)


I thought that too, then saw more video. A380

wardamneagle 04-12-2011 03:56 PM

Woops
 
msnbc.com Video Player

A380 takes out regional jet

tortue 04-12-2011 04:34 PM

Was the RJ coming or going?

If they were departing, why the turn with the ass-end facing alpha and being pushed so far into it? Why not push into the middle of the alley instead?

If they were arriving, why are they way off they are way off the centerline and obviously too close to Alpha.

If you look at the Google Maps view, its a weird spot for them to be.

samballs 04-12-2011 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by tortue (Post 979461)
Was the RJ coming or going?

If they were departing, why the turn with the ass-end facing alpha and being pushed so far into it? Why not push into the middle of the alley instead?

If they were arriving, why are they way off they are way off the centerline and obviously too close to Alpha.

If you look at the Google Maps view, its a weird spot for them to be.

Coming in (if you read any captions you would see from Boston) And if you have ever been to JFK you would know that, that is the most ghetto gates in the world, and the center lines are paint on the ground not center lines maybe at some point but no longer are. But way to be a detective, instead of asking you implied.

Capt Hindsight 04-12-2011 06:49 PM

Hey, it's the Air France square dance!

...and a dosie-doe now swing your partner...:D

afterburn81 04-12-2011 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 979020)
I would have thought the wing of an A380 would be higher than the tail of a 200...

Apparently the captain of the 380 was thinking the same thing.

glasspilot 04-13-2011 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 979020)
I would have thought the wing of an A380 would be higher than the tail of a 200...


He was taxing for T/O with a large fuel load. Wing drooping? Maybe if he was taxing in after landing the wing might have missed! (Just speculating!)

BeenThere 04-13-2011 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 979394)
If he's issued a violation by the FAA... does that matter to the French Civil Aviation Authority? Will he not be allowed to exercise privileges in USA?

He should be treated just as we would had it happened in France: The crew (including FA's), the company, and the mechanic who last touched the 380 should all be brought up on charges!

Payback's a b*****.

rickair7777 04-13-2011 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 979394)
If he's issued a violation by the FAA... does that matter to the French Civil Aviation Authority? Will he not be allowed to exercise privileges in USA?

The FAA could ban him from US airspace, even if they can't pull his ticket.

It's somewhat unlikely that the DGAC would let him off scot-free. I imagine they will take some action, which in the spirit of ICAO should satisfy the FAA. If DGAC lets him completely off the hook for reasons such as family or political connections, then the FAA would be justified in throwing their own flag.

But I'm thinking this is not quite revocation material, maybe a suspension. It depends on whether they they consider an ATPL taxiing a 500+ pax airliner at high speed in a congested area as reckless.

I don't think they pull tickets just for misjudging wingtip clearance...stuff happens. It's the high speed and the warning from ATC that's going to raise eyebrows.

The real punishment is going to come from AF, I can't think of why they wouldn't fire him. His fate really rests with his union...can they get his job back later?


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