Silver Airlines.....whoops!
08-08-2012 | 06:31 PM
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08-08-2012 | 06:47 PM
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River at the end? You think you're going to see that at night? Strike two...
Different markings? At night? Go back to watching your FMS...
08-08-2012 | 07:31 PM
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08-08-2012 | 07:32 PM
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08-08-2012 | 07:39 PM
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cant see the river at night? um yeah actually you can. Its not hard to pick out at all. Using the CKB and MGW VORs, landmarks on the ground and basic SA would tell you that it is not the right airport in this scenario. I'll stick with my FMS because it is just another tool to give me SA in flight. But from someone who has flown into CKB probably 200 times over the last five years in a lesser equiped saab, my point still stands. These two airports dont look the same. im not here to pass judgement on the crew. who knows what their level of experience was or what was going on in the cockpit. At least they got it stopped before they overran. Good job to them.
08-09-2012 | 03:40 AM
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08-09-2012 | 04:30 AM
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I know of at least one Tomcat that came aboard the wrong ship. They didn't notice it until the RIO said, "aw shucks, we came off of 67, this is 64" or words to that effect.
Funny thing about the ILs or RNAV approaches at KCKB, they all end at a runway. I'm fine with visuals, but these two mistakes are the resukt of guys jumping to conclusions and not paying attention to details. There is another posting elsewhere about setting the heading bug within a couple of degrees of the assigned and calling it OK or gripping about mil pilots be anal about those details--sweat the details and the big stuff will take care of itself.
GF
I know of at least one Tomcat that came aboard the wrong ship. They didn't notice it until the RIO said, "aw shucks, we came off of 67, this is 64" or words to that effect.
Funny thing about the ILs or RNAV approaches at KCKB, they all end at a runway. I'm fine with visuals, but these two mistakes are the resukt of guys jumping to conclusions and not paying attention to details. There is another posting elsewhere about setting the heading bug within a couple of degrees of the assigned and calling it OK or gripping about mil pilots be anal about those details--sweat the details and the big stuff will take care of itself.
GF
08-09-2012 | 05:27 AM
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I know of at least one Tomcat that came aboard the wrong ship. They didn't notice it until the RIO said, "aw shucks, we came off of 67, this is 64" or words to that effect.
Funny thing about the ILs or RNAV approaches at KCKB, they all end at a runway. I'm fine with visuals, but these two mistakes are the resukt of guys jumping to conclusions and not paying attention to details. There is another posting elsewhere about setting the heading bug within a couple of degrees of the assigned and calling it OK or gripping about mil pilots be anal about those details--sweat the details and the big stuff will take care of itself.
GF
I know of at least one Tomcat that came aboard the wrong ship. They didn't notice it until the RIO said, "aw shucks, we came off of 67, this is 64" or words to that effect.
Funny thing about the ILs or RNAV approaches at KCKB, they all end at a runway. I'm fine with visuals, but these two mistakes are the resukt of guys jumping to conclusions and not paying attention to details. There is another posting elsewhere about setting the heading bug within a couple of degrees of the assigned and calling it OK or gripping about mil pilots be anal about those details--sweat the details and the big stuff will take care of itself.
GF
Good book btw - but you realize that in today's environment that guy never would have made it through Primary.
My how times change - sometimes not for the better.
USMCFLYR
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'Feet Wet'
Paul Gillcrist was a navy carrier pilot for almost thirty years, from the early days of flying propeller planes from straight deck carriers, to the days of high-tech, lethal "teen" jets and supercarriers. In his remarkable career - from "nugget", to competent jet aviator, to test pilot, to Vietnam fighter pilot, to air wing commander, to head of "Fightertown, USA," Gillcrist flew the F-8 Crusader, F-4 Phantom, F-14 Tomcat, and a myriad of other tactical aircraft. As part of his absorbing stories
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