SWA LGA Gear Up Landing

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NTSB Begins Probe of Southwest Crash at LaGuardia - Bloomberg

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ShyGuy Hopes He Gets To Probe NTSB Next
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What happened to this video of the landing?
Did Southwest somehow manage to get it completely pulled off the Internet?
If so, that is very impressive.
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Phu$k ShyGuy! Yeah!

Sorry, I was starting to feel left out.

And while we're at it let's drown some kittens! I can feel my aviating skills sharpen with this witty banter.
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Quote: I should have said "they appeared to pull the power to idle." That was my mistake. Did you listen to the audio of the original recording? It was such a pronounced reduction in power so early that it was an immediate flag. No further reduction is audible between that time and the impact.
I can live with that much more easily. I don't believe I have seen the video you are referring to. In the end I have no clue where the power was set when crossing the expressway. All I can really say is that I've done that approach many times and have never been at idle crossing the expressway (even in a CRJ with no leading edge devices). I honestly can't remember ever being at idle in the 737 while crossing the threshold, much less that much farther out. Idle has always been an unacceptable state for me personally, when the aircraft is more than 50 feet above the runway while flying turbojet aircraft. If the evidence brings out your theory I will willingly apologize for being incorrect.
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Quote: +1

Sink rate looks high plus no flare. Hope it was mechanical...
Many years ago, (about 1991-2?) there was a 'hard landing' incident in a Delta 757 in FLL.

The Capt. was a 4th floor type, the lead 767/757 LCA I think.

They took off from FLL heading for LGA, full of pax and lots of gas, had a compressor stall on the rt. motor (common on the PW's back then) on climb out. He decides to shut down the motor, turned around and came right back to FLL, landed overweight and going fast, due to the heavy weight, flaps 20 approach speed.

I was there a couple days after and got to see the crunched airplane. There were wrinkles in the skin behind the nose gear. One of the mechanics told me they were out on the ramp watching the landing because they were told he was coming back with an engine shut down.

They said he floated and landed half way down (on a 9000' RW) then slammed on the brakes to get it stopped, with the nose still up in the air.

He said the nose gear came down so hard it pushed the strut up through the E+E compartment, the APU failed and the other engine shut down due to all the boxes in the E+E compartment being tossed off the racks.

It was able to be towed to the gate, but the airplane sat in FLL for a month, the FAA wanted to look at it. It was eventually fixed and returned to service, I think it's ship 652, or maybe 657. Someone had written on the F/O's elbow scratch pad, "This airplane was BENT, by Capt. xxxx yyyyy".

The "Discussions" we all had at recurrent training after the event were: "Why did they shut down the motor?" and "Why did they go back to FLL, instead of MCO, or MIA, with longer runways?"
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Quote: What happened to this video of the landing?
Did Southwest somehow manage to get it completely pulled off the Internet?
If so, that is very impressive.
They learned that from American.
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Quote: I can live with that much more easily. I don't believe I have seen the video you are referring to. In the end I have no clue where the power was set when crossing the expressway. All I can really say is that I've done that approach many times and have never been at idle crossing the expressway (even in a CRJ with no leading edge devices). I honestly can't remember ever being at idle in the 737 while crossing the threshold, much less that much farther out. Idle has always been an unacceptable state for me personally, when the aircraft is more than 50 feet above the runway while flying turbojet aircraft. If the evidence brings out your theory I will willingly apologize for being incorrect.
There was a video of a portion of the original video posted earlier in the thread, but it turns on after they've already crossed the highway. The original video was attached to someone's facebook feed. It was pulled down this morning, unfortunately. Perhaps they were worried about repercussions of having their electronic device on below 10k.

I, too, flew the CRJ... the earliest I'd pull the power was around 80 feet when really light/positive energy trend.

Two things really jump out in the video... the sharp power reduction crossing over the expressway, and then no flare and immediate collapse of the gear. When I first heard about it, I just figured they touched down and the downlock failed somehow. Then I saw that video and the subsequent photos that came out earlier today, and it became apparent it was definitely more of an impact than a landing.
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Must've seen a kitten on the runway and didn't want to miss it.
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Quote: ”the carpel tunnel is getting bad, and that is ruining date night.”
Now THAT is funny!

Truth is 9E threads are boring, there's nothing new going on anymore. Besides, it seems Slats has replaced me.
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Quote: You do realize how foolish you look with your outpour of criticism of her on this and asiana 214?
Wasn't Shyguy the poster who was unhappy because she would not go out on a date with him?
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