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Old 07-26-2013, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed View Post
I am not implying anything, but could someone elaborate on this?
I was wondering the same thing.

>80 mg/dL (>17.4 mmol/L) is considered positive for driving under the influence in most states.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed View Post
I am not implying anything, but could someone elaborate on this?
.011% B.A.C.

About a quarter of the FAA limit (.04%) and a level that would be impossible to detect any impairment. Depending upon when the sample was taken, could also correspond to natural decomposition within the body after death.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownClown View Post
Hahahaha! That's funny! Unless that policy changed yesterday, we carry them everyday.
I am not sure why he would have told me that. He is an Exec in the SCS Division. Maybe he meant that they could not be shipped as regular cargo, and had to be under a UPS Dangerous Goods Contract.

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Thanks for the correction. I guess I should have done a little more research.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownClown View Post
Hahahaha! That's funny! Unless that policy changed yesterday, we carry them everyday.
Heard that UPS was restricting the placement of Lithium batteries to the lower aft cargo compartment now. Any truth to this?
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Originally Posted by ackattacker View Post
.011% B.A.C.

About a quarter of the FAA limit (.04%) and a level that would be impossible to detect any impairment. Depending upon when the sample was taken, could also correspond to natural decomposition within the body after death.
Correct, after the type of trauma a crash/fire/desert temps induce the body may yield a false positive.

Several accident investigations have made this clear.
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Originally Posted by ackattacker View Post
.011% B.A.C.

About a quarter of the FAA limit (.04%) and a level that would be impossible to detect any impairment. Depending upon when the sample was taken, could also correspond to natural decomposition within the body after death.
Exactly. That level is immaterial; on autopsy even some pediatric patients have low levels BAC that obviously were not drinking. Decomposition and production by microbes could get to this level, and I would read nothing into it.

If the level was 5 or 6 times that observed amount and sample obtained correctly... well, that would be a different story. Not sure if this article is free outside of university paywall:

Interpretation of postmortem alcohol concen... [Forensic Sci Int. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI
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Originally Posted by cardiomd View Post
Exactly. That level is immaterial; on autopsy even some pediatric patients have low levels BAC that obviously were not drinking. Decomposition and production by microbes could get to this level, and I would read nothing into it.

If the level was 5 or 6 times that observed amount and sample obtained correctly... well, that would be a different story. Not sure if this article is free outside of university paywall:

Interpretation of postmortem alcohol concen... [Forensic Sci Int. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI
If you have ever seen what a 200g impact and a fire can do to you, it is easy to understand why the chances of a correct sample are almost nil. There is very little left to work with.
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Originally Posted by Bilsch View Post
I am not sure why he would have told me that. He is an Exec in the SCS Division.
There's your problem.
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER View Post
Heard that UPS was restricting the placement of Lithium batteries to the lower aft cargo compartment now. Any truth to this?
That's the first I've heard of it.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Again, for FO low time in type and/or low to the ground, a CA takeover is appropriate (as was the US Airways Hudson case).
It was the FO's first flight after having been released to the line from IOE. Maybe the captain thought since the FO was straight out of the school house that he was much sharper with the checklists which would sound reasonable to me.
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