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Old 12-20-2013, 05:01 PM
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"Plummeted"

I wish people like Ms. Wills weren't permitted on any aircraft. I'm sure Amtrak will gladly accommodate her on a trip which takes 5-10 times as long and is about 1/3rd LESS safe.

Then again, she would probably do just fine in an oxygen deprived environment. Probably not many brain cells left to kill.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:47 PM
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I'm glad the planes I fly do not have air conditioning, although now I'm at a loss as to how I'm able to maintain altitude.

From the article:

"Officials say both air conditioning systems failed during the flight from Tampa. Those systems supply pressure to the aircraft, and when they stopped working the plane dropped thousands of feet."

"Darn it Scotty, I need the air conditioning set to 72 degrees in 60 seconds or we're all dead".
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:59 PM
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Some years ago I was in the back of a flight in to SNA.
When we crossed the area of the "5" and the "55" intersection I knew we were WAY above the glide path (having flown in there possibly 100 times before).
While looking out the window I said out loud: "We are never going to make that runway".
Many passengers became very disturbed and restless by my announcement.
A few minutes later as we passed the "405", just shy of the runway I verbally confirmed my assertion (for the third time) as we were near 1000 feet in altitude.
Sure enough (as predicted), full throttle and a go around.
Passenger (maybe understandably so) get very uptight when something out of the ordinary is announced.
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MrDK View Post
Some years ago I was in the back of a flight in to SNA.
When we crossed the area of the "5" and the "55" intersection I knew we were WAY above the glide path (having flown in there possibly 100 times before).
While looking out the window I said out loud: "We are never going to make that runway".
Many passengers became very disturbed and restless by my announcement.
A few minutes later as we passed the "405", just shy of the runway I verbally confirmed my assertion (for the third time) as we were near 1000 feet in altitude.
Sure enough (as predicted), full throttle and a go around.
Passenger (maybe understandably so) get very uptight when something out of the ordinary is announced.
Were you saying it loud enough for the pilots to hear? If not, unless the 8-year old in the seat next to you had a TOGA button, what were you hoping to accomplish? (other than trying to show everyone how much you know and scaring them)
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Old 12-21-2013, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MrDK View Post
Some years ago I was in the back of a flight in to SNA.
When we crossed the area of the "5" and the "55" intersection I knew we were WAY above the glide path (having flown in there possibly 100 times before).
While looking out the window I said out loud: "We are never going to make that runway".
Many passengers became very disturbed and restless by my announcement.
A few minutes later as we passed the "405", just shy of the runway I verbally confirmed my assertion (for the third time) as we were near 1000 feet in altitude.
Sure enough (as predicted), full throttle and a go around.
Passenger (maybe understandably so) get very uptight when something out of the ordinary is announced.
Who were you talking to? You are kind of an ass to scare pax 3X earlier than they needed to be.
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Old 12-21-2013, 05:56 AM
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Go arounds seem to happen at frequently at SNA for some reason.
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MrDK View Post
Some years ago I was in the back of a flight in to SNA.
When we crossed the area of the "5" and the "55" intersection I knew we were WAY above the glide path (having flown in there possibly 100 times before).
While looking out the window I said out loud: "We are never going to make that runway".
Many passengers became very disturbed and restless by my announcement.
A few minutes later as we passed the "405", just shy of the runway I verbally confirmed my assertion (for the third time) as we were near 1000 feet in altitude.
Sure enough (as predicted), full throttle and a go around.
Passenger (maybe understandably so) get very uptight when something out of the ordinary is announced.
I must admit I have been that guy a few times... A few months back I was on holiday and sat next to a guy who worked for another airline and we had a few drinks together and talked about the approach and speculating on which runway they'd be landing etc. I'm sure the f/a's got fed up with us and pax were terrified...
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Old 12-23-2013, 03:04 AM
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Ah ha! If a (U.S.A. specifically) PAX were to overhear current ATC phraseology of “Line up and wait,” I am sure they would be fraught with worry about a lengthy delay of their flight!

It would be much more comforting for a PAX to overhear the old school; “taxi into position and hold.”

Bring back the old school phrase and we shall all live in peace.
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Old 12-24-2013, 03:48 AM
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Anything you read in the media must be taken with a grain of salt.
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Old 12-25-2013, 04:17 PM
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Just curious....From a technical standpoint what is the difference between the often used and highly dramatic news media phrase "plummet" and the correct term descend?

Is there a specific deck angle or is it a certain descent rate that defines the difference between a plummet and a descent? Becuase in my 20+ years of commercial airline flying I've never plumetted, I've never run the plummeting check list and I've never been asked by ATC plummet and maintain a lower altitude.

Maybe one of you super smart edumacted folks knows the secrets to all dramatic and awe inspiring "plummet"?
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