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80ktsClamp 03-12-2014 09:01 PM

And here we go!
 
Looks like the 777 kept on talking to Boeing... the plot thickens!

From the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...ampaign=buffer


U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.
That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.
U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.

The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.
But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.
At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.
The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce RR.LN -1.71% PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.
Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.
As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.

Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."
The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.
A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.

Sum Ting Wong 03-12-2014 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1601116)
Looks like the 777 kept on talking to Boeing... the plot thickens!

From the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...ampaign=buffer


U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.
That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.
U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.

The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.
But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.
At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.
The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce RR.LN -1.71% PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.
Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.
As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.

Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."
The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.
A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.

Remember that Malaysia is majority Muslim. There might be elements in favor of the government hiding any evidence of Muslim terrorism.
The NTSB ran into a brick wall of denial from Egyptian authorities when they determined that the (Muslim) co-pilot intentionally plunged Egypt Air 990 into the Atlantic, killing all aboard. Egyptians were outraged. "It is not possible that anyone (Muslim) who would commit suicide would also kill so many innocent people alongside him," said an Egyptian doctor.

That was 2 years before 9/11 when they killed 3,000 Americans in precisely that way. In Muslim countries, where Islam is everything and lying is necessary just to get through the day, one is unlikely to ever learn the truth about anything.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...I/VsEt8kjJkFEJ

Adlerdriver 03-12-2014 10:49 PM

A little quality control editing next time Clamp? I got deja vu about 8 times reading that. :rolleyes:

80ktsClamp 03-12-2014 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 1601135)
A little quality control editing next time Clamp? I got deja vu about 8 times reading that. :rolleyes:

Sorry bout that... it was copied and pasted to me and I sure as heck didn't get through the whole thing. I'll fix it.

Should have been about 1 deja vu... ;)

savall 03-12-2014 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1601116)
Looks like the 777 kept on talking to Boeing... the plot thickens!

From the WSJ: U.S. Investigators Suspect Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours - WSJ.com


U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.
That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.
U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.

The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.
But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.
At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.
The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce RR.LN -1.71% PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.
Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.
As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.

Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."
The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.
A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.

This is just insane.

unitedflyier 03-13-2014 03:10 AM

Now the news says Chinese pictures were a mistake and not authorised to be posted and RR never received any information. WSJ is usually a reliable source of information. If it were the national Enquirer you could just laugh it off.

Something fishy is going on.

BushPirate 03-13-2014 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1600805)
Pictures are bad.

Pictures are evidence :D

Funny how pilots are pilots no matter where in the world they come from, if there are ladies to chase....

WhiskeyTangoFox 03-13-2014 05:42 AM

Malaysian 777 missing
 
By now the plane is hidden in a Hanger somewhere in the Middle East, people are taken hostage and it work to their advantage whomever it was by planning the time, distance, and a destination with a big enough hanger. The End keep looking!

brianb 03-13-2014 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Sum Ting Wong (Post 1601120)
Remember that Malaysia is majority Muslim. There might be elements in favor of the government hiding any evidence of Muslim terrorism.
The NTSB ran into a brick wall of denial from Egyptian authorities when they determined that the (Muslim) co-pilot intentionally plunged Egypt Air 990 into the Atlantic, killing all aboard. Egyptians were outraged. "It is not possible that anyone (Muslim) who would commit suicide would also kill so many innocent people alongside him," said an Egyptian doctor.

That was 2 years before 9/11 when they killed 3,000 Americans in precisely that way. In Muslim countries, where Islam is everything and lying is necessary just to get through the day, one is unlikely to ever learn the truth about anything.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...I/VsEt8kjJkFEJ

Soooo, you are jumping on the "blame the Muslims" band wagon? I hope to never have you on a jury trial. Wait until you see ALL the evidence, ok?

FDXLAG 03-13-2014 06:46 AM

Yes the "Religon of Peace" is the last place to look if terrorism could be a factor.:rolleyes:

He did not jump on a band wagon, he was stating fairly recent history. For the record, if it was terrorism, I would suspect Chinese terrorists, who may or may not be Muslim.


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