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rickair7777 03-12-2014 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by evamodel00 (Post 1600723)
(I'm no avionics/airman expert by any means so please educate me since this is more of a question), If the aircraft had altered course and crossed over land, wouldn't a country's radar picked up the aircraft and had fighters/local craft investigate it if the craft didn't respond/wasn't scheduled to be flying there?

Depends on where and how high. An undeveloped area (ie jungle) not frequented by aircraft may not have ATC radar coverage.

Radar coverage is more limited at low altitudes.

Also with the transponders off, a primary return might just be random GA aircraft (some countries allow that, some don't).

Just because an unknown aircraft is flying around, that does not mean the military goes to DEFCON One. This depends on the country, in China an unknown aircraft would be intercepted for sure. In the US, we have thousands of unknown aircraft buzzing around as we speak (no flight plan required here, and a transponder is only required near a large metro airport).

flynavyj 03-12-2014 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1600703)
Everything I have read about him leads me to believe he had discriminating tastes:


Young blonde says missing Malaysia Airlines pilot invited her and her friend to ride in the cockpit with him for entire flight in 2011 | Mail Online

At least save the slams for after the find the airplane.

And based on the photo of that Captain, someone will be losing a job soon...

FDXLAG 03-12-2014 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1600714)
A touch irresponsible maybe, but doesn't seem particularly devout or radicalized. Or maybe visitors are allowed on MH?

Trust me I was neither criticizing or excusing. Just pointing out some interesting gossip I had not seen elsewhere. Looks to me like the guy would have fit in nicely in any 1980s American fighter squadron. Well maybe not the Marines, I am pretty sure they didn't smoke.

But then the 911 hijackers were not particularly devout either while prepping for their "mission".

Mesabah 03-12-2014 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 1600735)
And based on the photo of that Captain, someone will be losing a job soon...

It just goes to show you, if you are a pilot, anything you do/have done in your life might end up on CNN one day....

80ktsClamp 03-12-2014 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1600693)
If it's the jungle, satellites will have already captured imagery of the site...eventually after enough manpower (or CPU power) is applied the imagery will be identified. A fully-loaded 777 would leave a big enough mark to spot...unlike say a C-172.

Check out the pictures of ValuJet 592 in the everglades. Now imagine that in a very unspecific location in a remote location of the globe. Not saying that is what happened, but it is definitely not the least likely scenario.

rickair7777 03-12-2014 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1600737)
Trust me I was neither criticizing or excusing. Just pointing out some interesting gossip I had not seen elsewhere. Looks to me like the guy would have fit in nicely in any 1980s American fighter squadron. Well maybe not the Marines, I am pretty sure they didn't smoke.

No, I'm with you.


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1600737)
But then the 911 hijackers were not particularly devout either while prepping for their "mission".

This is true.

Mesabah 03-12-2014 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1600737)
But then the 911 hijackers were not particularly devout either while prepping for their "mission".

One thing with Islam, is that some people believe that becoming a martyr forgives all your past transgressions.

FDXLAG 03-12-2014 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1600763)
It just goes to show you, if you are a pilot, anything you do/have done in your life might end up on CNN one day....

Pictures are bad.

Pogey Bait 03-12-2014 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 1600735)
And based on the photo of that Captain, someone will be losing a job soon...

Why do you say this, this did not happen in the United States? Who is say that this is not completely fine in Malaysia?

swamp 03-12-2014 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Pogey Bait (Post 1600809)
Why do you say this, this did not happen in the United States? Who is say that this is not completely fine in Malaysia?

The article stated that Malaysian Airlines, strictly forbids it. With that said- in my opinion, it sure looks like all the pictures in the cockpit were taking on the ground.


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