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rickair7777 03-10-2014 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1599290)
Anyone else a little concerned how this will impact our profession if it turns out to be terrorism? Even a catastrophic mechanical on the 777 could impact public's travel decisions.

Not worried at all. Being a non-western airline, the public will assume it was a beater airplane maintained by dudes wearing loinclothes using junkyard parts, and flown by incompetents who had been fired from every previous pilot job they had.

If it was terrorism, they'll just write it off to poor security in the third world.

blastoff 03-10-2014 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1599356)
If it was terrorism, they'll just write it off to poor security in the third world.

Moreover, if terrorism, they will rest assured that they are attacking easier targets in the 3rd world rather than the western security apparatus.

JoeyMeatballs 03-10-2014 10:33 AM

Looks like it may have been a terrorist attack. It was an Iranian who purchased a ticket with a stolen passport.

CBreezy 03-10-2014 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1599345)
That just means they didn't see anything. It doesn't mean they would have for certain seen something if it had happened.

A high-resolution satellite would be able to see exactly what happened...if it was looking right at the airplane. Those satellites are in high-demand and probably focused on the middle east or somebody's military facilities, not open ocean.

The satellites best suited to that sort of thing would be the ones designed to detect strategic missile launches...they constantly cover large areas and look for thermal blooms (ballistic missiles but out a lot of heat on launch). I would think if the airplanes' fuel atomized and ignited in the air then such a satellite could have spotted it. But a small HE charge causing structural failure would not be enough to show up unless a lot fuel burned all at once.

Don't ask how I know, but if "they" said there was no evidence, there was no explosion. I know I give people a hard time for saying that but in this case it's not worth jail.

rickair7777 03-10-2014 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 1599389)
Looks like it may have been a terrorist attack. It was an Iranian who purchased a ticket with a stolen passport.


Iran is the last group that would do something like this to China. China and (and Russia) have always been somewhat reluctant to apply sanctions against Iran...they have dragged down the west's efforts to contain the Iranian nuclear program. Iran wouldn't bite that hand...I can't even think of why they would want to.

CBreezy 03-10-2014 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 1599389)
Looks like it may have been a terrorist attack. It was an Iranian who purchased a ticket with a stolen passport.

That's quite a leap. How would it be any different if an Iranian had a stolen or real passport? You don't get to carry on bombs in either case. Also, what's the motivation of an Iranian hijacking or blowing up a Malaysia Airline flying from China to the South Pacific?

blastoff 03-10-2014 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1599406)
That's quite a leap. How would it be any different if an Iranian had a stolen or real passport? You don't get to carry on bombs in either case. Also, what's the motivation of an Iranian hijacking or blowing up a Malaysia Airline flying from China to the South Pacific?

The only "leap" is your assertion that lack of satellite info means there wasn't an explosion.

You sound more and more like a "truther" with every post.

savall 03-10-2014 11:48 AM

How long before this thread gets locked ? It's not like any sign of the plane has even been found; those government satellites may also not be looking for the size of a jet blowing up. I'm no expert, but I believe the kind of weapons those monitor are much larger.

Wild wild wild speculation here.

CBreezy 03-10-2014 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 1599420)
The"leap" is your assertion that lack of satellite info means there wasn't an explosion.

You sound more and more like a "truther" with every post.

I'm not a truther. I just happened to have a security clearance with a need to know when I was an Air Force officer.

Also, most strategic weapons are smaller than regional jets. How big of a signature do you think they look for?

blastoff 03-10-2014 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1599431)
I'm not a truther. I just happened to have a security clearance with a need to know when I was an Air Force officer.

Me too. My TS/SCI doesn't mean jack, or that you can eliminate an explosion due to "no evidence found." Haven't found the aircraft yet either.

Also doesn't mean that we think there was an explosion, but you can't eliminate it at this point...I've known many "experts" in that realm going back to the OKC bombing who ended up wrong despite honest evidence supporting their argument. Lots of ways this can go.


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