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cardiomd 03-09-2014 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by Seggy (Post 1598448)

The reports of 4 fake passports is being denied by all major other news outlets, not sure how this site reports 10+ passengers with fake documents. Not saying it is not a possibility, but there has been absolutely no other word on this elsewhere.


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1598498)
Common misconception. I lived in a border state for the last 11 years and no, illegals are not crossing the borders in that way. The border security has improved dramatically and by and large, people in Mexico are not walking across the border to find a better way of life like back in the 80s, due to the jobs, technology at the border, increase in staffing, and so on. What we do have is a population of illegal immigrants living in the US, but they are not streaming over the border like many want to believe. Smuggling on the other hand IS an important issue.

This is my impression too. A big issue is now what to do with hybrid families harboring an illegal member or two, particularly young ones, which is more of a policy issue regarding naturalization / immigration priorities. But we digress...

Airhoss 03-09-2014 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by BizPilot (Post 1598522)
The news stated the co-pilot had only 2,800 hours total time.


Pretty common with Asian and European carriers.

threeighteen 03-09-2014 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 1598527)
The reports of 4 fake passports is being denied by all major other news outlets, not sure how this site reports 10+ passengers with fake documents. Not saying it is not a possibility, but there has been absolutely no other word on this elsewhere.

First it was 2, then it was 4, then 10.

I honestly don't buy any of it for now.

Multiple people using stolen passports from fall of 2013 were allowed to board an international flight? Doesn't add up at all.

I could maybe understand 1 slipping through the net, but each one after that and probability of it being true just drops through the floor.

FDXLAG 03-09-2014 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 1598527)
The reports of 4 fake passports is being denied by all major other news outlets, not sure how this site reports 10+ passengers with fake documents. Not saying it is not a possibility, but there has been absolutely no other word on this elsewhere.



This is my impression too. A big issue is now what to do with hybrid families harboring an illegal member or two, particularly young ones, which is more of a policy issue regarding naturalization / immigration priorities. But we digress...

Yes you and James digress and mislead. At least 169 illegals died crossing the border last year, even if only 1 out of 10 died, thousands would still be a good estimate. What to do with "hybrid families" is indeed a "big issue" but not the biggest issue.

I don't think stolen passports is anything to get excited about either.

rickair7777 03-09-2014 06:45 AM

The ten stolen passports being discussed is in reference to another crash (Air India, not MH 370).


The point being lots of passports get stolen because there is a booming market for false travel docs. 99.99% of the market is not terrorists, but rather migrants and crooks.

RiskandForecast.com | Risk Watch | At least 10 passengers of crashed Air India plane had fake passports

Seggy 03-09-2014 06:45 AM

You guys needs to read the link I posted again.

I posted it to show that fake passports are more 'common' than is being reported.

rickair7777 03-09-2014 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 1598571)

I could maybe understand 1 slipping through the net, but each one after that and probability of it being true just drops through the floor.

A stolen passport could easily slip through...

Does every ticket agent from every airline always have instant access to the interpol Db? Are they supposed to?

Is every passport reported stolen always entered in the interpol Db?

Is every stolen passport reported as stolen in a timely manner?

I'm guessing the answer to all of these is no.

Bilsch 03-09-2014 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Bilsch (Post 1597990)
Slideshow: Malaysian plane presumed crashed; questions over false IDs | Reuters.com

Photo of fuel slick from Vietnamese Air Force.

(It is shown in photo 2 of the slideshow)

Many have since said that the photo looks more like a coral or algae bloom. I probably should have waited before posting.

satpak77 03-09-2014 07:22 AM

I think the stolen passport issue has been put to rest....

CBreezy 03-09-2014 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by BizPilot (Post 1598522)
The news stated the co-pilot had only 2,800 hours total time.

Considering this was in cruise flight and not an approach into a thunderstorm, I consider this comment irrelevant.


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