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KC10 FATboy 03-10-2014 02:01 PM

They are now searching west of the planned route of flight in the Andaman Sea. Plot thickens.

Also, the 777 has fuel tank nitrogen inerting so those tanks might not have exploded as it broke up.

80ktsClamp 03-10-2014 02:11 PM

As it broke up, there would be oxygen reintroduced to the tanks.

For those of you that fly down there, that area is non radar, right?

Thedude 03-10-2014 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1599528)

For those of you that fly down there, that area is non radar, right?

No, they have pretty good radar coverage in that area until you hit the Bay of Bengal.
The 777 has ADS-B so they should still be receiving info from the a/c.

(I have flown out of KL quite abit)

Thedude 03-10-2014 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1599459)
Not to mention Malaysia is an Islamic country.

A secular Islamic country. Big difference.

80ktsClamp 03-10-2014 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 1599534)
No, they have pretty good radar coverage in that area until you hit the Bay of Bengal.
The 777 has ADS-B so they should still be receiving info from the a/c.

(I have flown out of KL quite abit)

Interesting. I know they were receiving ADS-B up to a point. If it exploded right there, they would have found it by now.

Does anyone know if their planes have international wifi available to the passengers?

Thanks!

edit: It makes me wonder if it went vertical into the vietnamese jungle a la UA 93. That would create a much smaller and more difficult hold to find.

LightAttack 03-10-2014 03:24 PM

For god's sake, if you get a call to give an interview on TV, and the idiot interviewer asks you "do these new planes fly themselves"? DON'T SAY YES!!!

The 777 does not fly itself - WE fly the aircraft. We control and manage the crew and the plane's automation. We understand what automation means. The public doesn't. Telling the public, who has no real idea what our job is about (with the exception of watching the movie "Airplane"), that the planes fly themselves is ridiculous.

I just watched some ex-777 captain agree with Greta Van Susteren that, yes, many pilots let the plane fly itself and turn on the autopilot at 400 feet. Sheesh. Take some pride and talk about how automation augments our natural god-like aviating abilities. We don't need to let the public think a monkey could do our job as long as he's fed bananas. If we keep this up, they'll be able to replace us with drones and chimps.

Have some pride in the job.

PolarBear 03-10-2014 03:27 PM

To Mesabah

Check this forum for rates at Polar (now Atlas). Don't think a Delta 737 FO earns $203 an hour. My goodness, ignorance abounds.

PolarBear 03-10-2014 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1599456)
The 747 Captain rates at Polar are less than the 737 FO rates at Delta.

:confused:

The Hoss 03-10-2014 03:53 PM

It seems that since there has been no debris found that the aircraft was likely intact upon impact. This does not exclude a bomb as a possible cause of the crash, just leaves other possibilities on the table. As most of you know we won't know much of anything until the boxes and wreckage are analyzed.

slinger 03-10-2014 03:57 PM

[QUOTE]For god's sake, if you get a call to give an interview on TV, and the idiot interviewer asks you "do these new planes fly themselves"? DON'T SAY YES!!!

The 777 does not fly itself - WE fly the aircraft. We control and manage the crew and the plane's automation. We understand what automation means. The public doesn't. Telling the public, who has no real idea what our job is about (with the exception of watching the movie "Airplane"), that the planes fly themselves is ridiculous.

I just watched some ex-777 captain agree with Greta Van Susteren that, yes, many pilots let the plane fly itself and turn on the autopilot at 400 feet. Sheesh. Take some pride and talk about how automation augments our natural god-like aviating abilities. We don't need to let the public think a monkey could do our job as long as he's fed bananas. If we keep this up, they'll be able to replace us with drones and chimps.
Hithe job.[/QUOTE
God like? Lol. Bit of a God complex, mate?


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