Likely Theories about Missing Malaysian Plane
03-23-2014 | 11:20 AM
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03-23-2014 | 12:14 PM
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Have you been to any of those East African countries? I have and a T7 in Malaysian colors would stand out, on the ground and on satellite coverage. Hangars for T7, there aren't any.
GF
Have you been to any of those East African countries? I have and a T7 in Malaysian colors would stand out, on the ground and on satellite coverage. Hangars for T7, there aren't any.
GF
03-23-2014 | 03:12 PM
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CNN BREAKING NEWS!!!
Now they are saying the military radar shows it descended to 12,000' when it turned.
Classic smoke/fire/decompression scenario.
So it got down to 12,000', aimed back toward the nearest suitable field, but the pilots were overcome by smoke/fumes and it flew on autopilot until it ran out of gas...somewhere, but not in East Africa!
Now they are saying the military radar shows it descended to 12,000' when it turned.
Classic smoke/fire/decompression scenario.
So it got down to 12,000', aimed back toward the nearest suitable field, but the pilots were overcome by smoke/fumes and it flew on autopilot until it ran out of gas...somewhere, but not in East Africa!
03-23-2014 | 04:35 PM
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CNN BREAKING NEWS!!!
Now they are saying the military radar shows it descended to 12,000' when it turned.
Classic smoke/fire/decompression scenario.
So it got down to 12,000', aimed back toward the nearest suitable field, but the pilots were overcome by smoke/fumes and it flew on autopilot until it ran out of gas...somewhere, but not in East Africa!
Now they are saying the military radar shows it descended to 12,000' when it turned.
Classic smoke/fire/decompression scenario.
So it got down to 12,000', aimed back toward the nearest suitable field, but the pilots were overcome by smoke/fumes and it flew on autopilot until it ran out of gas...somewhere, but not in East Africa!
03-24-2014 | 06:16 AM
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Diluter-demand oxygen systems can be used up to 40,000 feet. In a pressure-demand system, oxygen in the mask is above ambient pressure, permitting breathing above 40,000 feet. Because the pressure inside the mask is greater than the pressure around the user’s torso, inhalation is easy, but exhalation requires more effort. Aviators are trained in pressure-demand breathing in altitude chambers.
1. Which system do the 777 pilots have - diluter or pressure demand ?
2. Discounting former military pilots, what % of airline pilots get altitude chamber training and high altitude physiology training ?
3. How big an IAS envelope is there between stall and Mach tuck in a 777 at 45,000 ft ?
My questions don't imply anything - just looking for answers.
1. Which system do the 777 pilots have - diluter or pressure demand ?
2. Discounting former military pilots, what % of airline pilots get altitude chamber training and high altitude physiology training ?
3. How big an IAS envelope is there between stall and Mach tuck in a 777 at 45,000 ft ?
My questions don't imply anything - just looking for answers.
It's not designed to go the other way...very high odds of serious or debilitating DCS if you went quickly from normal cabin alt to 40K+ and stayed there for any length of time. Only work-around would be to pre-breath pure O2 or an exotic diving mixed gas for an extended period (probably impractical in this scenario...the other guy would inquire what you're up to). Military pilots would likely know this (as would experienced divers/parachutists), but civilian pilots might not understand that. They might think their mask (on 100% or pressure-demand) would keep them safe. The mask would keep them supplied with O2...while the N2 in their blood boiled.
03-24-2014 | 06:28 AM
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CNN BREAKING NEWS!!!
Now they are saying the military radar shows it descended to 12,000' when it turned.
Classic smoke/fire/decompression scenario.
So it got down to 12,000', aimed back toward the nearest suitable field, but the pilots were overcome by smoke/fumes and it flew on autopilot until it ran out of gas...somewhere, but not in East Africa!
Now they are saying the military radar shows it descended to 12,000' when it turned.
Classic smoke/fire/decompression scenario.
So it got down to 12,000', aimed back toward the nearest suitable field, but the pilots were overcome by smoke/fumes and it flew on autopilot until it ran out of gas...somewhere, but not in East Africa!
Way too many conflicting scenarios from way too many "sources".
03-24-2014 | 06:57 AM
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more CNN BREAKING NEWS!
The Prime Minister of Malaysia just announced Flight 370 "...ended in the southern Indian Ocean."
However, nobody is saying what evidence or debris they have may have found that made them come to this conclusion. Perhaps he's just trying to get the families to accept that their loved ones are gone?
The Prime Minister of Malaysia just announced Flight 370 "...ended in the southern Indian Ocean."
However, nobody is saying what evidence or debris they have may have found that made them come to this conclusion. Perhaps he's just trying to get the families to accept that their loved ones are gone?
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