MDW crash - Pilot killed
11-18-2014 | 08:34 PM
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Yes. He did my IOE, basically taught me to fly a twin. He was a lifer at night cargo, just loved it and loved teaching. RIP.
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11-19-2014 | 05:21 AM
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[QUOTE=BailedOut;1766311]His name was Eric Howlett. Two type ratings. Not sure why he was flying boxes. I left CASW about 2 years ago and had a number of bad sh&$ happen to me with those damn airplanes. Glad to be done, props are for boats. Tailwinds to a fellow freight dog, we've lost too many.
Also, where is the information coming from that he lost two engines? I listened to the atc feed and at the :53 mark he stated "trouble with the left"[/QUOTE]
I only speculated he might have lost both because of the witness in the news report said, '...heard the engine sputter then silence.' or words to that effect.
I wouldn't think having trouble on only one engine would put you into a living room just after takeoff, but how heavy did you fly those things out of MDW?
Also, where is the information coming from that he lost two engines? I listened to the atc feed and at the :53 mark he stated "trouble with the left"[/QUOTE]
I only speculated he might have lost both because of the witness in the news report said, '...heard the engine sputter then silence.' or words to that effect.
I wouldn't think having trouble on only one engine would put you into a living room just after takeoff, but how heavy did you fly those things out of MDW?
11-19-2014 | 07:42 AM
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[QUOTE=Timbo;1766423]
Giving a pro pilot the benefit of the doubt on handling a single engine failure, and given the fact that this was a "large-ish" piston twin...mis-fueling certainly comes to mind as a possibility.
His name was Eric Howlett. Two type ratings. Not sure why he was flying boxes. I left CASW about 2 years ago and had a number of bad sh&$ happen to me with those damn airplanes. Glad to be done, props are for boats. Tailwinds to a fellow freight dog, we've lost too many.
Also, where is the information coming from that he lost two engines? I listened to the atc feed and at the :53 mark he stated "trouble with the left"[/QUOTE]
I only speculated he might have lost both because of the witness in the news report said, '...heard the engine sputter then silence.' or words to that effect.
Also, where is the information coming from that he lost two engines? I listened to the atc feed and at the :53 mark he stated "trouble with the left"[/QUOTE]
I only speculated he might have lost both because of the witness in the news report said, '...heard the engine sputter then silence.' or words to that effect.
11-19-2014 | 05:18 PM
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When I was flying cancelled checks 35 years ago, we filled the cabin, floor to ceiling, every night! I have no idea how much over gross we were, but let's just say we used a lot of runway on takeoff...and that was in JFK!
11-19-2014 | 05:58 PM
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Was he hauling cancelled checks or something else? I thought most of the banks were not doing that anymore, opting for sending copies of checks over the internet instead?
When I was flying cancelled checks 35 years ago, we filled the cabin, floor to ceiling, every night! I have no idea how much over gross we were, but let's just say we used a lot of runway on takeoff...and that was in JFK!
When I was flying cancelled checks 35 years ago, we filled the cabin, floor to ceiling, every night! I have no idea how much over gross we were, but let's just say we used a lot of runway on takeoff...and that was in JFK!
11-19-2014 | 07:29 PM
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"Anyway somehow this guy ended up with his hands full... doubtfully weight related."
Yeah, sounds like it, sorry to hear about it, thanks for the details.
Yeah, sounds like it, sorry to hear about it, thanks for the details.
11-20-2014 | 08:53 AM
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MDW crash - Pilot killed
Texas was the only routes we had at CASW that did checks and they would be floor to ceiling. Pain the arse. Everything else was either LSO freight (no more than 400lbs usually). But up north was medical usually. When I did that same route it was pee and blood. At 2am you were always tired, so that would've been the worst time to have an emer. I refused several flights at Central and always caught grief, from the professional chair pilot at dispatch. Who is no longer there I'm told, but with tight margins and high competition you were expected to fly unless that sky was falling. Even with that all being said, Central wasn't all too doom and gloom, depending on which route you had. I do feel sorry for the Towners, great people and a great family. My prayers and condolences to all those involved.
11-20-2014 | 01:24 PM
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Impact picture showed gear down and flaps looked full down. If done too early (actually full flaps shouldn't be done at all), he might have loaded too much drag too soon.
Just speculation on the engine situation, his impact location and the picture I just saw. He'd only been there a month I hear. Impact is not too far from the 1972 UAL 737 crash location.
Just speculation on the engine situation, his impact location and the picture I just saw. He'd only been there a month I hear. Impact is not too far from the 1972 UAL 737 crash location.
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