B767 engine fire-FLL
10-29-2015 | 11:41 AM
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10-29-2015 | 11:46 AM
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Another good scenario for Operational Decision Games.
Excerpt from Beyond Stick-and-Rudder, ISBN 978-0-9919758-0-8
Operational Decision Games (ODGs) modeled [with permission] on Tactical Decision Games (TDGs) by John F. Schmitt, Mastering Tactics, Marine Corps Gazette, are designed to accelerate line experience by having players deal with operational situations.... All games are intended to force the line pilot to make decisions within the allotted time. There are neither good nor bad solutions. The intent of ODGs is to encourage the line pilot to reflect on the situation presented and to draw his own conclusions. ODGs are not intended to replace processes such as Operating Procedures. Neither are they intended to prompt questions as to how a given situation developed as it did. The reader is encouraged to sit on the "hot seat" and make decisions based on available information. He should resist the temptation to wait for more information or to take longer than the allotted time to decide. He should also keep in mind that, once a decision has been made, communicated and executed, the exercise is complete...Good luck and enjoy the challenge.
The only information is you have is the what's in the paragraph, below:
'An audio recording posted by WSVN showed that an air traffic controller told the pilot "a lot of fluid" was leaking from his left engine. The controller then urgently tells the pilot that the engine had caught fire and that he was dispatching firefighters.' (Plane catches fire on runway of Fort Lauderdale airport - CBS News)
What would YOU do?
1. In a time limit of 5 seconds, decide what commands, actions or communications you will initiate. Be precise in your response by giving the exact wording of any commands or communications.
2. Quote any applicable maxims.
3. State your rationale.
Excerpt from Beyond Stick-and-Rudder, ISBN 978-0-9919758-0-8
Operational Decision Games (ODGs) modeled [with permission] on Tactical Decision Games (TDGs) by John F. Schmitt, Mastering Tactics, Marine Corps Gazette, are designed to accelerate line experience by having players deal with operational situations.... All games are intended to force the line pilot to make decisions within the allotted time. There are neither good nor bad solutions. The intent of ODGs is to encourage the line pilot to reflect on the situation presented and to draw his own conclusions. ODGs are not intended to replace processes such as Operating Procedures. Neither are they intended to prompt questions as to how a given situation developed as it did. The reader is encouraged to sit on the "hot seat" and make decisions based on available information. He should resist the temptation to wait for more information or to take longer than the allotted time to decide. He should also keep in mind that, once a decision has been made, communicated and executed, the exercise is complete...Good luck and enjoy the challenge.
The only information is you have is the what's in the paragraph, below:
'An audio recording posted by WSVN showed that an air traffic controller told the pilot "a lot of fluid" was leaking from his left engine. The controller then urgently tells the pilot that the engine had caught fire and that he was dispatching firefighters.' (Plane catches fire on runway of Fort Lauderdale airport - CBS News)
What would YOU do?
1. In a time limit of 5 seconds, decide what commands, actions or communications you will initiate. Be precise in your response by giving the exact wording of any commands or communications.
2. Quote any applicable maxims.
3. State your rationale.
10-29-2015 | 11:55 AM
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10-29-2015 | 12:07 PM
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Another good scenario for Operational Decision Games.
Excerpt from Beyond Stick-and-Rudder, ISBN 978-0-9919758-0-8
Operational Decision Games (ODGs) modeled [with permission] on Tactical Decision Games (TDGs) by John F. Schmitt, Mastering Tactics, Marine Corps Gazette, are designed to accelerate line experience by having players deal with operational situations.... All games are intended to force the line pilot to make decisions within the allotted time. There are neither good nor bad solutions. The intent of ODGs is to encourage the line pilot to reflect on the situation presented and to draw his own conclusions. ODGs are not intended to replace processes such as Operating Procedures. Neither are they intended to prompt questions as to how a given situation developed as it did. The reader is encouraged to sit on the "hot seat" and make decisions based on available information. He should resist the temptation to wait for more information or to take longer than the allotted time to decide. He should also keep in mind that, once a decision has been made, communicated and executed, the exercise is complete...Good luck and enjoy the challenge.
The only information is you have is the what's in the paragraph, below:
'An audio recording posted by WSVN showed that an air traffic controller told the pilot "a lot of fluid" was leaking from his left engine. The controller then urgently tells the pilot that the engine had caught fire and that he was dispatching firefighters.' (Plane catches fire on runway of Fort Lauderdale airport - CBS News)
What would YOU do?
1. In a time limit of 5 seconds, decide what commands, actions or communications you will initiate. Be precise in your response by giving the exact wording of any commands or communications.
2. Quote any applicable maxims.
3. State your rationale.
Excerpt from Beyond Stick-and-Rudder, ISBN 978-0-9919758-0-8
Operational Decision Games (ODGs) modeled [with permission] on Tactical Decision Games (TDGs) by John F. Schmitt, Mastering Tactics, Marine Corps Gazette, are designed to accelerate line experience by having players deal with operational situations.... All games are intended to force the line pilot to make decisions within the allotted time. There are neither good nor bad solutions. The intent of ODGs is to encourage the line pilot to reflect on the situation presented and to draw his own conclusions. ODGs are not intended to replace processes such as Operating Procedures. Neither are they intended to prompt questions as to how a given situation developed as it did. The reader is encouraged to sit on the "hot seat" and make decisions based on available information. He should resist the temptation to wait for more information or to take longer than the allotted time to decide. He should also keep in mind that, once a decision has been made, communicated and executed, the exercise is complete...Good luck and enjoy the challenge.
The only information is you have is the what's in the paragraph, below:
'An audio recording posted by WSVN showed that an air traffic controller told the pilot "a lot of fluid" was leaking from his left engine. The controller then urgently tells the pilot that the engine had caught fire and that he was dispatching firefighters.' (Plane catches fire on runway of Fort Lauderdale airport - CBS News)
What would YOU do?
1. In a time limit of 5 seconds, decide what commands, actions or communications you will initiate. Be precise in your response by giving the exact wording of any commands or communications.
2. Quote any applicable maxims.
3. State your rationale.
Thanks.
10-31-2015 | 11:08 AM
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Best video of the evac here:
https://www.facebook.com/abcnews/vid...3866917358812/
Notice what the running right engine does to the right rear slide and the one pax that is blown face down on the taxiway. Also the incredible number of carry on bags that were "rescued". Thumbs up to the ARFF crews. What an incredible job! Especially the truck pulling up to the rear that laid down a blanket on the trail of fuel behind the left engine and protecting the pax. These guys did a tremendous job knocking that blaze down without running over some of these morons. Looks like the Captain was the last one off the plane.
https://www.facebook.com/abcnews/vid...3866917358812/
Notice what the running right engine does to the right rear slide and the one pax that is blown face down on the taxiway. Also the incredible number of carry on bags that were "rescued". Thumbs up to the ARFF crews. What an incredible job! Especially the truck pulling up to the rear that laid down a blanket on the trail of fuel behind the left engine and protecting the pax. These guys did a tremendous job knocking that blaze down without running over some of these morons. Looks like the Captain was the last one off the plane.
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