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Old 03-19-2016, 08:41 PM
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So what was the actual crosswind component?
Don't know, but several things are troubling, if they turn out to be true, like holding for 2hrs vs. going to alternate/origin.
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This (insert appropriate description) really needs to re-think his personal beliefs and motives to teach. CFI....Really???

The day you lose a friend in an aviation mishap is then the day the definition of a "tragedy" will finally hit home, (as most of us unfortunately have already experienced that day).

My condolences go out the crew, pax and their families of Flt 981.

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Don't know, but several things are troubling, if they turn out to be true, like holding for 2hrs vs. going to alternate/origin.
Again, ATC audio seems to indicate little crosswind. Possible mishandled go around, got slow and stall. Turbulence or shear zone produces decreasing headwind or steep bank angle aggravating stall ?

Appearance of fire due to steep nose down pitch attitude resulting in compressor stall(s) ?
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:04 AM
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The day you lose a friend in an aviation mishap is then the day the definition of a "tragedy" will finally hit home, (as most of us unfortunately have already experienced that day).

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Boy, ain't THAT the truth!? It happened to me within a little over a year in the industry. Awful, awful feeling I don't wish on my worst enemy. The emotions still sting 7 years later.
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:04 AM
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The aircraft was fully loaded with tanker fuel on departure. 20.3 tons.
Aerotimes says something about low level jet stream. I've never heard of that before...
flydubai crash in Russia: the facts - Airline news, Aviation news, Commercial news | AeroTime
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Old 03-20-2016, 03:34 AM
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My buddy over there said possible tail strike on one of the go arounds
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Old 03-20-2016, 04:58 AM
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Don't know, but several things are troubling, if they turn out to be true, like holding for 2hrs vs. going to alternate/origin.
Ok, so you don't know. Just curious how long should an airliner be allowed to hold and wait for the WX to improve?
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Somehow DFW and micro-burst come to mind.
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:33 AM
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Just curious how long should an airliner be allowed to hold and wait for the WX to improve?
They are allowed to hold for the duration of their holding/extra fuel.
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