EK521 incident/accident
#11
According to media:
PAX said the captain informed them they had a gear problem and would be making an emergency landing.
They were trying to go around, raised the gear, and then settled onto the runway.
All exits opened...exited in a timely fashion.
There is a radio transcript...don't know the location...they told tower they were going around. Tower cleared them to climb to 4000...they acknowledged.
PAX said the captain informed them they had a gear problem and would be making an emergency landing.
They were trying to go around, raised the gear, and then settled onto the runway.
All exits opened...exited in a timely fashion.
There is a radio transcript...don't know the location...they told tower they were going around. Tower cleared them to climb to 4000...they acknowledged.
#13
The 300 is a whole other animal than the 300ER, almost all the weight but a lot less blow from the Rolls Royce engines. Combine that with 50+ degree temps (I don't care what the metar says, I've lived here too damn long and know how hot it was yesterday) and probable low level wind shear and more than likely a late go around decision found them in a low energy state. When exactly the gear came up we'll soon know, but those gear doors aren't exactly small either.
#14
I just saw the evac-selfie video. Besides the lunacy of deciding "Hey, I think I will film this!", I'm amazed EVERYONE didn't die. NO ONE seemed to be in a rush to get out....it looked like the typical chaos you see every day at the gate.
The F/As were trying, but largely ignored.
No one got motivated until they jumped and saw fire...THEN they ran.
Someone on pprune wrote "this should be shown at every evac class."
Indeed.
#15
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From: C-172 PPL
I heard very little of note in it. I didn't hear any emergency declared.
A lot of the tower broadcasts are difficult to understand, but the flight broadcasts were quite clear.
I don't know of a word-for-word transcript yet.
#16
I saw a pic that showed the aft-left was folded and twisted. That's surprising, since I thought Boeing and the slide companies learned their lesson after Pan Am 845 in SFO (1971; emergency evac after shearing the body gear off from hitting the departure-end approach lights of 1L). It was a really windy day, and the slides looked like the waving-arm-tube man at your local car dealer. Supposedly all 747 slides were changed to a more rigid variety after that; I would have thought all others would have been designed to such a standard.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_wXfSwRzM
#17
I saw a pic that showed the aft-left was folded and twisted. That's surprising, since I thought Boeing and the slide companies learned their lesson after Pan Am 845 in SFO (1971; emergency evac after shearing the body gear off from hitting the departure-end approach lights of 1L). It was a really windy day, and the slides looked like the waving-arm-tube man at your local car dealer. Supposedly all 747 slides were changed to a more rigid variety after that; I would have thought all others would have been designed to such a standard.
I just saw the evac-selfie video. Besides the lunacy of deciding "Hey, I think I will film this!", I'm amazed EVERYONE didn't die. NO ONE seemed to be in a rush to get out....it looked like the typical chaos you see every day at the gate.
The F/As were trying, but largely ignored.
No one got motivated until they jumped and saw fire...THEN they ran.
Someone on pprune wrote "this should be shown at every evac class."
Indeed.
I just saw the evac-selfie video. Besides the lunacy of deciding "Hey, I think I will film this!", I'm amazed EVERYONE didn't die. NO ONE seemed to be in a rush to get out....it looked like the typical chaos you see every day at the gate.
The F/As were trying, but largely ignored.
No one got motivated until they jumped and saw fire...THEN they ran.
Someone on pprune wrote "this should be shown at every evac class."
Indeed.
#18
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"found them in a low energy state. When exactly the gear came up we'll soon know, but those gear doors aren't exactly small either."
Been flying way too long and this appears to be what we call an "unstablized approach."
I'm on the side of fatigue after an all night turn as a major factor in the decision making process.
Been flying way too long and this appears to be what we call an "unstablized approach."
I'm on the side of fatigue after an all night turn as a major factor in the decision making process.
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"found them in a low energy state. When exactly the gear came up we'll soon know, but those gear doors aren't exactly small either."
Been flying way too long and this appears to be what we call an "unstablized approach."
I'm on the side of fatigue after an all night turn as a major factor in the decision making process.
Been flying way too long and this appears to be what we call an "unstablized approach."
I'm on the side of fatigue after an all night turn as a major factor in the decision making process.
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