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Old 08-03-2016 | 09:57 PM
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According to media:
PAX said the captain informed them they had a gear problem and would be making an emergency landing.
They were trying to go around, raised the gear, and then settled onto the runway.
All exits opened...exited in a timely fashion.

There is a radio transcript...don't know the location...they told tower they were going around. Tower cleared them to climb to 4000...they acknowledged.
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Old 08-04-2016 | 03:41 AM
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Heard only 1 exit was open, working, or used? Is this true?
Not true. Two exits were unusable due to the wind blowing the escape slides up into the air.
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Old 08-04-2016 | 06:38 AM
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The 300 is a whole other animal than the 300ER, almost all the weight but a lot less blow from the Rolls Royce engines. Combine that with 50+ degree temps (I don't care what the metar says, I've lived here too damn long and know how hot it was yesterday) and probable low level wind shear and more than likely a late go around decision found them in a low energy state. When exactly the gear came up we'll soon know, but those gear doors aren't exactly small either.
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Old 08-04-2016 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PILOTGUY
Not true. Two exits were unusable due to the wind blowing the escape slides up into the air.
I saw a pic that showed the aft-left was folded and twisted. That's surprising, since I thought Boeing and the slide companies learned their lesson after Pan Am 845 in SFO (1971; emergency evac after shearing the body gear off from hitting the departure-end approach lights of 1L). It was a really windy day, and the slides looked like the waving-arm-tube man at your local car dealer. Supposedly all 747 slides were changed to a more rigid variety after that; I would have thought all others would have been designed to such a standard.

I just saw the evac-selfie video. Besides the lunacy of deciding "Hey, I think I will film this!", I'm amazed EVERYONE didn't die. NO ONE seemed to be in a rush to get out....it looked like the typical chaos you see every day at the gate.

The F/As were trying, but largely ignored.

No one got motivated until they jumped and saw fire...THEN they ran.

Someone on pprune wrote "this should be shown at every evac class."

Indeed.
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Old 08-04-2016 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
There is a radio transcript...don't know the location...they told tower they were going around. Tower cleared them to climb to 4000...they acknowledged.
The audio can be found at LiveATC.net, under Audio Archives, Aug 3, 0830-0900Z, OMDB Tower #2 (118.75).

I heard very little of note in it. I didn't hear any emergency declared.
A lot of the tower broadcasts are difficult to understand, but the flight broadcasts were quite clear.

I don't know of a word-for-word transcript yet.
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Old 08-04-2016 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
I saw a pic that showed the aft-left was folded and twisted. That's surprising, since I thought Boeing and the slide companies learned their lesson after Pan Am 845 in SFO (1971; emergency evac after shearing the body gear off from hitting the departure-end approach lights of 1L). It was a really windy day, and the slides looked like the waving-arm-tube man at your local car dealer. Supposedly all 747 slides were changed to a more rigid variety after that; I would have thought all others would have been designed to such a standard.
Training video made after the PA845 crash. The landing begins at 5:30.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_wXfSwRzM

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Old 08-05-2016 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
I saw a pic that showed the aft-left was folded and twisted. That's surprising, since I thought Boeing and the slide companies learned their lesson after Pan Am 845 in SFO (1971; emergency evac after shearing the body gear off from hitting the departure-end approach lights of 1L). It was a really windy day, and the slides looked like the waving-arm-tube man at your local car dealer. Supposedly all 747 slides were changed to a more rigid variety after that; I would have thought all others would have been designed to such a standard.

I just saw the evac-selfie video. Besides the lunacy of deciding "Hey, I think I will film this!", I'm amazed EVERYONE didn't die. NO ONE seemed to be in a rush to get out....it looked like the typical chaos you see every day at the gate.

The F/As were trying, but largely ignored.

No one got motivated until they jumped and saw fire...THEN they ran.

Someone on pprune wrote "this should be shown at every evac class."

Indeed.
That selfie should be a mandatory part of the safety demonstration that passengers are given as to what not to do during an egress . Fred
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Old 08-05-2016 | 07:18 PM
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"found them in a low energy state. When exactly the gear came up we'll soon know, but those gear doors aren't exactly small either."

Been flying way too long and this appears to be what we call an "unstablized approach."

I'm on the side of fatigue after an all night turn as a major factor in the decision making process.
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Old 08-05-2016 | 08:49 PM
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My experience. The Rolls are slower to spool up from approach idle than the Pratt and GE Engines.
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Old 08-06-2016 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
"found them in a low energy state. When exactly the gear came up we'll soon know, but those gear doors aren't exactly small either."

Been flying way too long and this appears to be what we call an "unstablized approach."

I'm on the side of fatigue after an all night turn as a major factor in the decision making process.
It was a four our, one leg day after a 29 hour overnight.
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