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Old 10-28-2016 | 02:58 PM
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Holy crap. That's a healthy fire right there. Thank God everyone made it off safely.
Lets thank the flight crew instead...
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Old 10-28-2016 | 03:01 PM
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This fire event would have been much worse had the wind been blowing towards the fuselage. Wow. Very lucky.
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Old 10-28-2016 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Joachim
Lets thank the flight crew instead...
Why don't we thank them both!
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Old 10-28-2016 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
Well, sort-of.

In the video: a man non-chalantly putting on a sweatshirt as he casually walks away from a raging inferno perhaps 150 ft behind him. People on cell-phones, walking from the plane. The fire truck honking for people to move, as they can't get to optimum spray position....

Just like the video of the Emirates 777: it is astonishing to me that people don't run away from a burning airplane.
I'm floored by the self righteous a55holes carrying their bags. The FAA should go after those Darwin candidates with every arrow in the quiver.

If I'm on an airplane being evac'd as a pax, you get one chance to move then I'm mowing you down. Violently if that's what it takes to get my wife and kids to the slide that I pray to God wasn't punctured by some pricks roll-a-board.
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Old 10-28-2016 | 06:02 PM
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Because the pilots were there and imaginary friends dont exist
Well said.
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Old 10-28-2016 | 07:36 PM
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MOD INPUT: Stop the comments about religion. Not allowed on APC.
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Old 10-29-2016 | 01:52 AM
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That's a good rule. It keeps things from getting too ironic.
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Old 10-29-2016 | 03:32 AM
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CNN is saying parts of a fan disk where found HALF A MILE away.
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Old 10-29-2016 | 04:37 AM
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For more than 20 years, anytime going for training CAE, Flight Safety, Delta or AA facilities I've been asking about this V1 cut in case of fire.

Always I've been told before V1 stop, after V1 continue. Which in the sim works beautiful. I tried and try to advocate differently. And always I bring up the Concorde scenario. They took off, all dead. If the pilots would have put the plane streaight ahead, maybe some people will be alive today. Pilots crucified for not following procedure, but some people alive.

Same with this AA plane. They were lucky for catching the fire before V1. Otherwise all would be dead now. And that's because the stupid procedure we learn vis-a-vis V1 cuts.

I survived a plane fire 30 years ago. In my book during an engine fire the only safer place is on the ground. This crop flying around and making poetry with an engine on fire doesn't cut it for me. Just sayn'
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Old 10-29-2016 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ME109G
For more than 20 years, anytime going for training CAE, Flight Safety, Delta or AA facilities I've been asking about this V1 cut in case of fire.

Always I've been told before V1 stop, after V1 continue. Which in the sim works beautiful. I tried and try to advocate differently. And always I bring up the Concorde scenario. They took off, all dead. If the pilots would have put the plane streaight ahead, maybe some people will be alive today. Pilots crucified for not following procedure, but some people alive.

Same with this AA plane. They were lucky for catching the fire before V1. Otherwise all would be dead now. And that's because the stupid procedure we learn vis-a-vis V1 cuts.

I survived a plane fire 30 years ago. In my book during an engine fire the only safer place is on the ground. This crop flying around and making poetry with an engine on fire doesn't cut it for me. Just sayn'
You need to educate yourself about what the Concord accident was.

Southwest recently had an uncontained engine failure and did just fine.

You have some valid points but you don't know what would or wouldn't have happened.
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