The seniority impact of base swaps, whether temporary or permanent is neutral. All of these glass half empty posts ignore the opposite side of the issue. If a senior pilot comes into a category and moves pilots down a number, it is offset by the pilots in the previous category who just moved up.

I completely agree. Trial and error is the only way we improve!

That is gona be a tuff sell to the pilots in the moving down category.

It might not be just one swap. What if its 5. Or 10?

And an easy sell to the pilots in the moving up category... that's seniority...

You have to remember that not everyone is trading into you're base above you. In fact, most of the churn occurs below the 2 year mark so you likely wouldn't be affected at all.

And if you are impacted positively or negatively, it's no different than what would have happened on an AE.

Under the current system you take vacations with you on a base swap. You may have to rebid if you have training that conflicts with a previously awarded vacation but that wouldn’t be the case here. I can’t say I’m necessarily against base swaps but I can see why some people would be.

Are base swaps actually being proposed or is this just an internet idea?

Umm...just to clarify....does the swap include the house and wife?

pretty sure you only lose your vacation for an airline swap. base swaps you keep it.

The terminology here is not precise enough.

Swap conjures one pilot trading what he has to another pilot for what HE has.

Thats a real slippery slope.

A non-training AE run semi annual or yearly is pretty firm ground. As with any other AE issues like training and vacation are already addressed.

The AE process would facilitate multiple moves among bases instead of a 1-4-1 swap between 2 pilots.

Good points. I assumed this was what we've been talking about all along but now I see the distinction. I don't support swaps, but I do support (monthly) opportunities to move bases with everyone having a seniority-based opportunity bid for the base they want. It would probably be a pretty complex piece of software to run the iterative movements, but surely nothing our IT couldn't handle, right?