06 nov ae
11-10-2017, 07:22 AM
#61
seeing the large hubs...
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 73N A
Posts: 3,706
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Are base swaps actually being proposed or is this just an internet idea?
11-10-2017, 07:24 AM
#62
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,460
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Are base swaps actually being proposed or is this just an internet idea?
Originally Posted by BobZ
Umm...just to clarify....does the swap include the house and wife? 
Originally Posted by TED74
Good points. I assumed this was what we've been talking about all along but now I see the distinction. I don't support swaps, but I do support (monthly) opportunities to move bases with everyone having a seniority-based opportunity bid for the base they want. It would probably be a pretty complex piece of software to run the iterative movements, but surely nothing our IT couldn't handle, right?
) process in place for an AE. This could use the same mechanism, but nothing is awarded that creates training. It essentially is a contingent vacancy backfill AE with no training awards.
11-10-2017, 07:27 AM
#63
Super Moderator
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 6,868
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Are base swaps actually being proposed or is this just an internet idea?
Pretty sure its the latter - just us throwing some thoughts around.
I am not against trying it but I can guarantee with 14,000 + resourceful motivated individuals out there, about 2 seconds after it is instituted someone will figure out a devious way to manipulate if for self gain that was not the original intent.
Scoop
11-10-2017, 08:53 AM
#65
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 428
Originally Posted by Scoop
Pretty sure its the latter - just us throwing some thoughts around.
I am not against trying it but I can guarantee with 14,000 + resourceful motivated individuals out there, about 2 seconds after it is instituted someone will figure out a devious way to manipulate if for self gain that was not the original intent.
Scoop
I am not against trying it but I can guarantee with 14,000 + resourceful motivated individuals out there, about 2 seconds after it is instituted someone will figure out a devious way to manipulate if for self gain that was not the original intent.
Scoop
I know it was brought up earlier and I know it could be drafted differently but just ask the NYC FA’s how much fun it is when the ATL FA’s show up to cherry pick international trips in the summer.
There will always be guys crafty enough to game the system to the detriment of others. I think the best and easiest solution is monthly AE’s. Worked very nicely at NWA.
11-10-2017, 09:02 AM
#66
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Originally Posted by CoefficientX
This ^^^^^
I know it was brought up earlier and I know it could be drafted differently but just ask the NYC FA’s how much fun it is when the ATL FA’s show up to cherry pick international trips in the summer.
There will always be guys crafty enough to game the system to the detriment of others. I think the best and easiest solution is monthly AE’s. Worked very nicely at NWA.
I know it was brought up earlier and I know it could be drafted differently but just ask the NYC FA’s how much fun it is when the ATL FA’s show up to cherry pick international trips in the summer.
There will always be guys crafty enough to game the system to the detriment of others. I think the best and easiest solution is monthly AE’s. Worked very nicely at NWA.
This is the correct answer.
11-10-2017, 10:10 AM
#67
sharing
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 139
Originally Posted by gloopy
1. LBP
2. ?
3. Base Swaps
2. ?
3. Base Swaps
11-10-2017, 10:10 AM
#68
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 174
I’m all for the good of the pilot Group as a whole but hear me out on this point of view. Base swaps actually punish the people who live in base. Whether by luck or by choice people who live in base choose to live there. When commuters start base swapping whenever it benefits them, they displace people who live in the base. Maybe a limit of 1-2 per year in category is acceptable this is the same reason I am against tdys
It allows the company to put a bandaid on staffing and it worsens relative seniority of those who live in the base by people coming in on top of them.
I think a fix for all of this is to have ae’s every two months or so so that people can change bases within categories when the need is there
It allows the company to put a bandaid on staffing and it worsens relative seniority of those who live in the base by people coming in on top of them.
I think a fix for all of this is to have ae’s every two months or so so that people can change bases within categories when the need is there
11-10-2017, 11:36 AM
#69
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Originally Posted by Dustycrophopper
I’m all for the good of the pilot Group as a whole but hear me out on this point of view. Base swaps actually punish the people who live in base. Whether by luck or by choice people who live in base choose to live there. When commuters start base swapping whenever it benefits them, they displace people who live in the base. Maybe a limit of 1-2 per year in category is acceptable this is the same reason I am against tdys
It allows the company to put a bandaid on staffing and it worsens relative seniority of those who live in the base by people coming in on top of them.
I think a fix for all of this is to have ae’s every two months or so so that people can change bases within categories when the need is there
It allows the company to put a bandaid on staffing and it worsens relative seniority of those who live in the base by people coming in on top of them.
I think a fix for all of this is to have ae’s every two months or so so that people can change bases within categories when the need is there
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
