With gas prices the way they are.... I don't think passenger comfort is as big of an issue......if people can pay $5 less.....the majority of travelers will fly whatever airplane you put them on.

Go sit in an XJ-900 in seat 20D (last one on right) then sit in a CP-175 in the same seat. You'll see a BIG difference. Most of that difference carries throughout the cabin as well.

Name one thing that northwest does that is comfort based. For one look at the gross cloth seats on all of their aircraft. Like they really care about comfort?

First of all re-read the post. I am not attacking you only putting out an opinion that you obviously disagree with. After you re-read my post read the others. Maybe you are so proud of your CRJ 900 Next Generation magical flying machine with its caverous flight deck and luxury interior that you cannot seem to see the difference in size of the 2 aircraft. Other than that stop with the personal attacks as it makes you look foolish on this site. As someone else posted, take that over to FI.

Hey Maxjet or Einstein or whatever you name is,

I have a very good memory of what I read. You are the one started with personal attacks against me. You must have a short term memory loss. I am not the one who spewed ugly personal attacks, you did. So don't turn this around and make it sound like you are the victim here. Take your own advice and take your rant to FI.

You say I am proud of the CRJ900. Just because I disagreed with you does not mean I am proud of the CRJ9. You are the one who sounds too proud to fly anythingelse other than the mighty ERJ175. That's right Maxjet, E175 is also a REGIONAL Jet just like the CRJ9. I have pointed out plenty of faults with the CRJ9 on other threads. CRJ9 is not my first jet nor do I think it is the best. Far from it. It has many deficiencies just like most of the other regional jets. Stating that it has a better fuel efficiency does not EQUATE to saying it is the best. Understand the distinction.

Do I think E175 appears to be a very good regional jet? Yes I do, based on feedbacks I received from Compass Pilots. Is it a more comfortable regional jet for passengers? Yes. Does that mean anything to the NWA? I do not know. I am not privy to that kind of information. It is above my paygrade. I just go to work and fly the plane and get the job done. End of discussion.

Let's move on to the original question of this thread which is the future of Mesaba.

OK, you're an FA playing with pilots here. Yes you live a similar life style and yes you talk to them on overnights but when the door closes we are in two completely different worlds. Obviously, from your postings, everyone can tell that you do not understand the path that we have/have to travel or our futures.

BTW, you can stop with the 12 year old antics; seriously……………grow up and is the “cabin secure.”

I will give you props for your screen name............not many FA's understand that message.

Are we talking about XJ CRJ900? If we are, you are wrong. I do not know where you get your info but it is a fact that 19,450 lbs thrust per side for the XJ CRJ900. This is straight from the XJ POM and the Bombardier Systems manual and from Bombardier CRJ900 instructors at Montreal. So I guess all those information, including the Bombardier Customer Training Center Instructors are all wrong.

All this minor nitpicking is getting everyone off from the original question, which is the future of Mesaba. What is likely to happen to Mesaba in light of the latest developments and the upcoming NWA/DAL merger.

It is tied in with the future of the other regionals like Comair, Compass, Skywest etc. I certainly don't have the insight to this. It would be a pure speculation at this point.

I'm not calling you out but I think you have your numbers mixed up. The fuel load on the CR9 is 19,450 lbs not the engine thrust. If XJ’s engines do produce that much thrust then that's serious overkill seeing that the bird operates great with 13,600 pounds thrust at take-off (14,510 pounds thrust APR) when configured to 76 seats (per DAL scope).

If XJ does have "enhanced" GE's then show us the proof. Also, nowhere on bombardier’s website do they mention this modification/option.

Oddly enough, we were never required to know how much thrust the engines put out for our oral since fadec calculates it based on ambient temp and pressure. But the 19.5K did seem very off to me. So I got out my systems manual...the big green binder manual. On the first page of the powerplant section (20-10-1). I will retype the introduction paragraph word for word...

"The airplane is equipped with two General Electric CF34-8C5 high bypass ratio turbofan engines which have a normal take-off thrust rating of 13,600 pounds. The engines are controlled by a full authority digital engine control system (FADEC). In the event of an engine failure during takeoff, an automatic power reserve (APR) function of the FADEC, will increase the thrust on the remaining engine to 14,510 pounds."

What Jetjock said...I do believe you are quoting the fuel capacity which is just shy of 20K but there is no way the engines are putting out that much power.

Thank you, that sounds spot on.

Lighteningspeed, there's your numbers.