Have you air whiskey guys been told what % of newhire classes you'll make up at United through the CPP?

Nobody seems to know. Even the union apparently doesn't have any info. The company claims to have a number but they don't seem inclined to share at this time.

Attrition seems to hover around 10 per month without the CPP. Even assuming the CPP only took 5 per month that's 15 per month total attrition. There are currently 500 pilots on property. Assume 20% of those pilots don't want to move on. That puts a new hire today at the front of the CPP line in 24 months. Lots of assumptions here but I don't think they are unrealistic.

Another thing to consider: staffing targets are 800 pilots total and AW is going to hire aggressively to meet that. Use the same math above and anyone hired today will be better than 50% up the seniority list in 12 months IF they can keep newhire classes relatively full.

TLDR: It's a great time to get hired at AW.

The language reads that United will accept X number of AWA pilots per year to take the Hogan. Not per month, per year. We dont know what that number per year is. It could be very small.

United's initial assessment for 2018 is 400-500 pilots.

As of right now we will be filling somewhere between 1-100% of every UA new hire class with our CPP.











AWA pilots are on a need to know basis when it comes to information from ATW.

Right now, we don't need to know.

Amazing.

You'd think the "growing pains" that were experienced with the UAL-XJT CPP would have been worked out by now.

Meaning, some transparency between management and the AWAC MEC.

They kept XJTALPA in dark for a long long time.

The ONLY way the XJT MEC could tell the HPI pass/F2F "acceptance" rate was via the pilots self reporting their results.

IIRC, that lasted about the first 6 months of interviews.

How do you even figure 1%?

The CPP is an opportunity to take the hogan test. That is all.

Fixed for you.

ha! at least someone else understands how this garbage works

It's a carrot to get people in the door while upper management continues to ignore ****ed off employees that continue to get abused and threatened almost daily. A junior FO won't see any results from this because the company can barely stay afloat as is.

All they did was lie (shocking I know) that our CPP would be like a flow and so much better than everyone else. What we got was more of the same.

Come here knowing your CPP won't matter and management will treat you nothing like family and more like trash.