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Old 08-26-2017 | 07:04 PM
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Could a new hire FO go to united via the CPP? Of course. How many years will that take? Nobody knows. It could be a long time. This misses the point though:

The CPP generates movement and movement = better quality of life, a faster upgrade, faster PIC time resulting in a more attractive resume and a faster off the street hire. The CPP is a win for everyone at AW even if it is small and even if a new hire FO gets hired off the street by UAL or SWA or AA or [insert major here] before their CPP number comes up.

For those who plan to just wait out the CPP and hope it works out I think they will be very disappointed. It can be a great way to get the list moving but it's not a career plan. See the numbers I posted earlier in this thread though and I think it will only make a good situation that much better.
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Old 08-27-2017 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPKP
It's a carrot to get people in the door while upper management continues to ignore ****ed off employees that continue to get abused and threatened almost daily. A junior FO won't see any results from this because the company can barely stay afloat as is.

All they did was lie (shocking I know) that our CPP would be like a flow and so much better than everyone else. What we got was more of the same.

Come here knowing your CPP won't matter and management will treat you nothing like family and more like trash.
Who hurt you PKP
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Old 08-27-2017 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumbletrousers
Who hurt you PKP
No one hurt me. But paying attention to what they're doing to all the front line employees here. Family oriented company no more. The stories of people being threatened to get flying done or else YOU will cause a flight to cancel is sickening. They did to themselves and then they have to audacity to blame us when everyone is being run ragged and exhausted. Things could be worse, but this place is a far from sunshine and rainbows like they continue to claim.
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Old 08-27-2017 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lukeh99
Could a new hire FO go to united via the CPP? Of course. How many years will that take? Nobody knows. It could be a long time. This misses the point though:

The CPP generates movement and movement = better quality of life, a faster upgrade, faster PIC time resulting in a more attractive resume and a faster off the street hire. The CPP is a win for everyone at AW even if it is small and even if a new hire FO gets hired off the street by UAL or SWA or AA or [insert major here] before their CPP number comes up.

For those who plan to just wait out the CPP and hope it works out I think they will be very disappointed. It can be a great way to get the list moving but it's not a career plan. See the numbers I posted earlier in this thread though and I think it will only make a good situation that much better.
Very good advice .... the same applies to all the flows programs.
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Old 08-29-2017 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by N1234
Very good advice .... the same applies to all the flows programs.
Flow is a totally different beast.
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Old 08-31-2017 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mpet
They call him billyflow, it was his only way.
Wait didn't you leave Air Wisconsin and go to Compass? I went from Piedmont to American. What's your excuse?
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Old 09-01-2017 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mpet
You're at least 20 years older than me grandpa.
Still at mainline. Better than stuck at a regional until burnt out by 65
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Old 09-01-2017 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 123494
Still at mainline. Better than stuck at a regional until burnt out by 65
20 years is a long time.
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Old 09-01-2017 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
20 years is a long time.
Close... I was at Piedmont just short of 16. However I loved every bit of it. You'll never have as much just at the majors as you did at the regionals. Enjoy the time there.
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Old 09-02-2017 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
You'll never have as much fun at the majors as you did at the regionals. Enjoy the time there.
FIFY. Thanks for the advice! Should we also learn how to type and spell words in the meantime? Or is it better to remain un-hireable and wait 16 years to flow? Please we need more of your great career advice!

Billyflow..
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