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Originally Posted by blastboy
Even at 85K, that's still good! That's better than a regional captain. LOL
And that right there is the mentality that is causing a downward slide in payscales. Please check that line of thinking at the door.
Consider this:
A regional aircraft flight crew carries 50 people. Those people are probably your average run of the day ordinary folk like you and I.
A global express flight crew carries 11-20 people in ultimate luxury. These passengers are high caliber clientel that range from celebrities to CEOs and owners of fortune 100 companies. As such they demand service well beyond your typical pack of pretzels provided by United Express.
A regional aircraft crew flies mostly short hops, and almost entirely domestic flights.
A global express crew flies a wide variety of flights, both domestic and international. If you own a global, odds are you aren't flying wholly back and forth between DC and NY or Boston. It just isn't cost effective (rich folks don't typically get rich by wasting money). Instead, they're utilizing the full range of capability, including the ability to fly 6000NM+ non-stop.
A regional aircraft crew flies mostly 3 or 4 day trips. They are able to come home between trips and know their schedule a month in advance, and have a minimum number of days off.
A global express crew may be on the road for WEEKS at a time, often internationally the entire time. When they aren't travelling, they are probably on call. Many crews don't have more than just a handful of guaranteed days off, some are unfortunate enough to be on call 24/7.
Don't sell yourself short. There are MANY variables in determining what a pilot is worth. Obviously if you have experience in type, a type rating, or relative experience (such as international flying), you can probably command higher pay. Schedule and QOL also will dictate adjustments to pay.
Here's an excerpt from another forum (PPW) regarding global pay:
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Stanton Survey (2006):
Captain - Global ExpressBase Salary:
Average - $104,400
Quartiles:
Q1 - $88,000
Q2 - $89,700
Q3 - $120,400
Average Bonus - $16,100 (97% received bonuses)
Total Cash:
Average - $106,700
Quartiles:
Q1 - $88,000
Q2 - $89,700
Q3 - $124,000
Those are some sad numbers... Someone is seriously pulling down the curve there... Those are the "weighed numbers" which is what I always use, however, seeing the dismal result you may be interested in the "unweighted numbers" which are as follows...
Captain - Global Express
Base Salary:
Average - $116,100
Quartiles:
Q1 - $88,000
Q2 - $89,700
Q3 - $120,400
Average Bonus - $13,100 (97% received bonuses)
Total Cash:
Average - $126,500
Quartiles:
Q1 - $88,000
Q2 - $89,700
Q3 - $124,000
I would agree that somebody out there is pulling down the average. By comparison, here are the numbers for the GV, which is by all rights categorized in the same tier as the Global (and vice versa):
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Stanton Survey (2006):
(Weighted numbers)
Captain - Gulfstream V
Base Salary:
Average - $122,600
Quartiles:
Q1 - $110,000
Q2 - $119,900
Q3 - $133,600
Average Bonus - $15,400 (87% received bonuses)
Total Cash:
Average - $129,600
Quartiles:
Q1 - $113,100
Q2 - $126,800
Q3 - $145,300
(Unweighted numbers)
Base Salary:
Average - $121,900
Average Bonus - $14,900 (87% received bonuses)
Total Cash:
Average - $129,300
As a general rule, a type rated FO will should command 5-15% less than a fully qualified CA in the corporate world and 10-20% less in the charter world.