FAA Proposes 1500-Hour Rule Changes

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No wonder. New CPL holders completing under part 61& leaving to Asia with a type rating. This law is only supporting to Australians. They can come here & work as much as they want. Sucks.
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Nothing but pay is going to fix staffing issues at regionals. To someone who doesn’t know about flying, what’s the difference between 500 and 1500 hours? They probably don’t even know how long it may take to reach either total. All they see is the sticker price and it is not attractive (on top of their college loans, no less). I think if these reg proposals pass then we may see a short burst of new hires. It’ll be those people already time building and invested. But regional wages will stall once again and we’ll be in the same place. It just won’t be attractive to the common person. But I hope it doesn’t happen at all so we continue seeing better and better pay rates sooner than later.
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Quote: If people aren't getting into aviation because they don't want to build 1,000 hours they aren't suddenly going to do it when they have to build 500. There's still 40k+ in training costs. This may stem the bleeding for awhile but long term it will probably exacerbate the shortage by hiring away flight instructors even earlier.
I think this is pre-emptive on the part of the airlines... they know they are likely going to be running ab-initio programs, almost certainly funded by said airlines, within the next five years. They want to minimize the cost to themselves.

What's the easier sell:

a) Pilot Shortage
b) Airlines want to cut costs at their pilot academies

Right now they can plausibly deny b). But not in five years.
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Quote: Nothing but pay is going to fix staffing issues at regionals. To someone who doesn’t know about flying, what’s the difference between 500 and 1500 hours? They probably don’t even know how long it may take to reach either total. All they see is the sticker price and it is not attractive (on top of their college loans, no less). I think if these reg proposals pass then we may see a short burst of new hires. It’ll be those people already time building and invested. But regional wages will stall once again and we’ll be in the same place. It just won’t be attractive to the common person. But I hope it doesn’t happen at all so we continue seeing better and better pay rates sooner than later.
Ab initio could solve the problem. They could probably even cut regional pay (especially captains) once they have a steady flow of ab-initio cadets with mainline seniority numbers. Career regional captains would become non-existent except for a handful of trainers. Current lifers would need to get into a training role, get hired at a major, or go drive truck.
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Quote: If people aren't getting into aviation because they don't want to build 1,000 hours they aren't suddenly going to do it when they have to build 500. There's still 40k+ in training costs. This may stem the bleeding for awhile but long term it will probably exacerbate the shortage by hiring away flight instructors even earlier.
You'd be shocked as to what's going on these days. I know CFIs that are doctoring their logbooks and padding it with real (1.0 flight becomes 1.2) and fake flights. Whatever hours they require is a non-issue. How are you going to prove the log entries are fake? It takes a lot of effort to detect, accuse, investigate, follow-up, etc.

Not that it matters, I hear regional airline training is providing remedial flight training to those who show deficiencies in basic flight procedures and skills.
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Quote: You'd be shocked as to what's going on these days. I know CFIs that are doctoring their logbooks and padding it with real (1.0 flight becomes 1.2) and fake flights. Whatever hours they require is a non-issue. How are you going to prove the log entries are fake? It takes a lot of effort to detect, accuse, investigate, follow-up, etc.
Regionals won't care (wink, wink).

But your forgery had better be darn good because majors do care, and some of them audit books. And they have people who are good at it. Even more dangerous nowdays... internet is forever. That P-51 time you logged in N123YZ in CA on 19 Aug 2017? Well flightaware shows it was IFR in FL on that day...
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Quote: Regionals won't care (wink, wink).

But your forgery had better be darn good because majors do care, and some of them audit books. And they have people who are good at it. Even more dangerous nowdays... internet is forever. That P-51 time you logged in N123YZ in CA on 19 Aug 2017? Well flightaware shows it was IFR in FL on that day...
When you are hiring hundreds to thousands of pilots a year, no one has time to inspect a logbook that closely. When someone is assigned to review a stack of logbooks, the flip to each tabbed checkride to see if there were any repeats and then look at maybe one or two other flights before they move on to the next one. Odds are the type of person that forges their logbook has personality traits that the interviewers will catch.
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Quote: Regionals won't care (wink, wink).

But your forgery had better be darn good because majors do care, and some of them audit books. And they have people who are good at it. Even more dangerous nowdays... internet is forever. That P-51 time you logged in N123YZ in CA on 19 Aug 2017? Well flightaware shows it was IFR in FL on that day...
Oh these kids know all about that. The way they’re forging is rather ingenious...alas...the 1500 hour rule created a need to build time quick...and necessity is the mother of all inventions. They’re way ahead of checking FlightAware.com. The “fake” flights they’re logging are real flights...just not with them in them, but they know all about the flight details.
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Quote: When you are hiring hundreds to thousands of pilots a year, no one has time to inspect a logbook that closely. When someone is assigned to review a stack of logbooks, the flip to each tabbed checkride to see if there were any repeats and then look at maybe one or two other flights before they move on to the next one. Odds are the type of person that forges their logbook has personality traits that the interviewers will catch.
I know regionals who have recently hired pilots with unethical and immoral personalities. They’re not catching them all. And these said pilots are setting an example to their friends of what they can get away with. It’s a real sh*t show.
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Quote: When you are hiring hundreds to thousands of pilots a year, no one has time to inspect a logbook that closely. When someone is assigned to review a stack of logbooks, the flip to each tabbed checkride to see if there were any repeats and then look at maybe one or two other flights before they move on to the next one. Odds are the type of person that forges their logbook has personality traits that the interviewers will catch.
Those people are good at what they do. They have a decent chance of catching something, if there's anything to catch... all it takes is a hint, and they pull the thread. And like you said there are probably other indicators.

Do people get away with it? Yes, likely more than get caught. But the odds of getting caught are greater than minuscule.

Again, I'm talking about majors. At this point most regionals probably want you to pencil-whip your book so they can get you in class faster (they don't care if it bites you in the rear later).
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