Like Starbucks said.
You could argue that the King Air guys should get more than the jet drivers considering the extra workload. 3 times more levers in the cockpit too!

Phlying4fun- Check your PM's.

No, you say "thank you very much, I've been here for a few years, I've got my 1000ME and 1500 turbine time, I will go elsewhere. See yah!"

Nobody at Gama who is considering/being offered the X, or the XL, is worried about 1000ME and 1500 turbine. Most people who are hired passed those times a long time ago. Most are at Gama because this is where they have chosen to be, or because they are waiting for a call from the Southwest or the like. Pay isn't the only consideration for a lot of people and there are many reasons to stay here, even with other options out there.

Like someone else mentioned, nobody going to the X as a Captain is going to be making 90k. As far as I know, they have all come internally and have been here for 3+ years. So a X Captain is realistically "starting" 102k+. To me, that seems pretty comparable to others in our market space.

PIC
Year 1 - 90k
2 - 94k
3 - 98k
4 - 102k
5 - 106k
6 - 108k
7 - 110k
8 - 112k
9 - 115k
10 - 117k

SIC
Year 1 - 55k
2 - 60k
3 - 65k
4 - 70k
5 - 80k
6 - 82k
7 - 83k
8 - 85k
9 - 87k
10 - 88k

Once you pass your Command Evaluation, you move to year 1 PIC pay regardless of if you upgrade to PIC or remain as an SIC.

If you were here for a few years and then had those times you wouldn't have been hired in the first place. This isn't an hour building outfit by any stretch.

While I agree this isn't a time building job in the traditional sense of flying a ton a year and pushing 1000 hours, I wouldn't consider it a job were you don't build time. Generally I seem to fly at a rate of about 600 hours per year. I'm sure some fly more and some fly less. While you might be able to build time faster somewhere else, this isn't a bad spot to consistently build a decent amount of time.

I think what they (including me) mean is there’s a difference between a job where you build time, and a time building job. Also, the mins here are high enough that if you don’t have the time to at least apply everywhere else, you’re probably not going to get hired here.

That being said, for me this job is a career job as I am not going back to 121. It’s also a lot better than flying for any regional, unless a legacy is your goal.

Completely agree with you. I'm here for the long haul as well. Just with the lowering FO minimums, I wouldn't want to scare off good people who may not look at this as a career, and thus wanting to continue to build time, from coming here with a statement such as this isn't a time building company. Someone looking to bypass the regionals or flying cargo could easily read that to say you won't build enough time to ever move on.

We need good lower time people coming in as First Officers, even if they aren't going to stick around forever. I think this is a great place to come, gain good experience, fly to lots of cool places, and steadily build hours.

I can agree with that.

Anyone know total time, ratings, etc on the last F/O’s hired?