Liberty University Flight Degree

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Hello! I went to Liberty in a very similar situation. I was just out of the military and looking for a degree while learning how to be a pilot. Liberty was AWESOME. The men and women, residentially, care so much about your future and what you can do to best set yourself up for success. And the G.I. Bill paid for all of my flight train from Pvt through COM Multi. I hear that if you do the FTA program that you can get it to pay for COM ASEL, CFI, CFI-I, abd MEI.

Anyway, I loved the experience. Especially using my G.I. Bill as the military affairs office at Liberty really helps you maximize your benefits.
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Quote: Over 90% acceptance, incredibly conservative/Christian, zero prestige, huge student body. The school is not respected among the community (do a quick Google search and you'll see what I mean).

Basically, going to liberty will elicit similar response/reactions as going to a place like university of Phoenix, even though they are very different schools. People don't see either as a truly legitimate higher education experience.

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There is no way Liberty University is like a University of Phoenix! Liberty is very reasonably priced, especially for Veterans. For that matter, Utah Valley University used to be a borderline diploma mill. Although I've heard they have moved up a notch or two under new leadership.

In the end, accreditation is the big deal! To me, Liberty University is in a category of private religious schools like Oral Roberts University or Brigham Young University. Overall good accredited schools with a religious component but may or may not carry a stigma in certain circles because of religion!

As far as University of Phoenix (UOP) goes, they are simply way overpriced! I took an online MBA course from UOP for transfer credit and they are academically rigorous just very pricey!
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The FTA program is overpriced. You can get all of your ratings for $60K most places...all the way up to MEI. Liberty charges $92K for the same exact ratings. And that's just the lab fees, not including tuition costs. Even if you ask the FTA you're attending, they will tell you the same thing. But! if using FAFSA or GI Bill, as your only source of getting in that left seat, then it is what it is. You're going to pay the vig, in order to have em pay out.
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Quote: I'm an Air Force vet and an active reservist using the GI bill for flight training through a Liberty University flight affiliate in California and I've had mostly a positive experience with the school and with the flight affiliate. The downside is my housing allowance is for Lynchburg, VA which is much lower than the cost of living in CA. I'm not an overly religious person and I manage to get through the Christian aspect of Liberty just fine. If you can handle that Liberty is a great school, free books reduced military tuition and also a yellow ribbon school which is a huge advantage when doing flight training. DM me if you have any questions.
I just retired from the Navy and looking to go to Liberty University for the flight Degree. I requesting some information on how your training is going. You might already be complete with it. if you are, how did the school help with job placement. Where did you land for work? Do you recommend it or would you do something different? thank you.
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Quote: I'm an Air Force vet and an active reservist using the GI bill for flight training through a Liberty University flight affiliate in California and I've had mostly a positive experience with the school and with the flight affiliate. The downside is my housing allowance is for Lynchburg, VA which is much lower than the cost of living in CA. I'm not an overly religious person and I manage to get through the Christian aspect of Liberty just fine. If you can handle that Liberty is a great school, free books reduced military tuition and also a yellow ribbon school which is a huge advantage when doing flight training. DM me if you have any questions.

Hello, I am about to start this program and was wondering how everything has turned out for you with the program. Have you been training with the affiliate out of Carlsbad I think the name is pinnacle aviation? Is there any advice or recommendations you may have? Any problems with having liberty on your resume or anything of that nature? I appreciate any insight you may have, thanks for your time.
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I attend Liberty and believe that a Bachelors is a Bachelors. I don’t think the airlines really care how “prestigious” your school is.

As far as the pricing for flight training goes through Liberty, they “charge” enough to cover the nationwide average for each rating. That being said, if you find one of their flight training affiliates in your area that trains for cheaper than the national average, that’s what you will pay for flight training. For example; Liberty charges 15k for private pilot flight training. That 15k gets sent to the flight school and you draw off of it. If you complete it in 9k worth of training, the remainder sits in your account at the FTA and can be used for further training. So you aren’t paying the flight school any more than it actually takes to obtain each rating. You will have to pay the whole amount upfront, through loans or whatever...but you can always take what is left after you’re done and pay back the loan, or like I said, just keep it for the next rating.
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I'll be attending Liberty once I finish up my PPL. One of the big factors behind choosing Liberty is that they also accept the GI bill, and because they're a university flight training program I can receive a monthly housing allowance and book stipend. I'm not too concerned about how prestigious the school is or that it's a christian university. As long as the flight training affiliate gives quality instruction then I'm all for it. Also LU's cadet programs and ties with the airlines are quite interesting too.
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I fly near Liberty University and interact with their CFIs, students and the DPEs that do their checkrides.

As has been previously stated, you're going to pay in excess of 100k for the degree and the flight time. Liberty's program is good if you specifically want that 141 benefit for your ATP hours (1250 instead of 1500). In addition, you will come out of Liberty's program low on solo time and cross country time. You'll be barely over the minimums, which as I understand it are even lower at a 141 school than normal requirements.

That said, lots of part 61 flight schools partner with local community colleges so you can use the GI Bill and student loans to cover your flight time. If you think you HAVE to use Liberty then you're just trusting what their recruiters are telling you and not doing the legwork for yourself. If you plan on doing aviation, don't be lazy about it. You won't get far if you do.

As many have said, you can get through your commercial and CFI for a little over 60k at most part 61 flight schools. It won't get you a degree, but it will get you flying. Before COVID hit, the degree wasn't even an important qualification to have until you were applying for the majors.
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Quote: Over 90% acceptance, incredibly conservative/Christian, zero prestige, huge student body. The school is not respected among the community (do a quick Google search and you'll see what I mean).

Basically, going to liberty will elicit similar response/reactions as going to a place like university of Phoenix, even though they are very different schools. People don't see either as a truly legitimate higher education experience.

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wait a minute.....are you slighting my PhD in Air-lining from Southern New Hampshire University???
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Quote: I fly near Liberty University and interact with their CFIs, students and the DPEs that do their checkrides.

As has been previously stated, you're going to pay in excess of 100k for the degree and the flight time. Liberty's program is good if you specifically want that 141 benefit for your ATP hours (1250 instead of 1500). In addition, you will come out of Liberty's program low on solo time and cross country time. You'll be barely over the minimums, which as I understand it are even lower at a 141 school than normal requirements.

That said, lots of part 61 flight schools partner with local community colleges so you can use the GI Bill and student loans to cover your flight time. If you think you HAVE to use Liberty then you're just trusting what their recruiters are telling you and not doing the legwork for yourself. If you plan on doing aviation, don't be lazy about it. You won't get far if you do.

As many have said, you can get through your commercial and CFI for a little over 60k at most part 61 flight schools. It won't get you a degree, but it will get you flying. Before COVID hit, the degree wasn't even an important qualification to have until you were applying for the majors.
With a bachelors, you would have the 1000 hour R-ATP through Liberty. That’s worth a good bit of $
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