The APC example of a "your mama" joke. So utterly original and refreshing.

I was flying with a guy who clicked of the autopilot and said" going tactical" I thought he $hit his pants! Others have said "cleared to land 3 green" ****....this in night freight not top gun. Get over yourself. If your not in a fighter or landing at a military base it sounds really stupid! It's like walking around the neighborhood in your flight suit or using your brain bag for a flight bag....look at me!

Quite a few? What are guys failing on? What’s different about AQP there?


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I suspect it is a combination of, not getting to fly and liking it becoming a paid passenger for a year, trying to memorize gouge instead of understanding the material, poor initial training where the pilot was “forced” through the system by very caring instructors.

K4 AQP program is no different than anyone else. 2 days of train to proficiency sims followed by a PC style of check (non Pria) filled by a
OKE and a LOFT where you have a problem.

Your insecurities couldn’t be more obvious.

How "poor" is the training?
How many other AQP training programs have you been through?

Too funny! No kidding, just smile and say "go get em Maverick"!

What a joke! I've never met a "caring" instructor who yelled or threw clipboards in the sim. Our training department is riddled with problems. We have a real issue with check airmen giving 1s on event sets that by FAA AQP standards that should have been graded a 2.



Our AQP footprint meets the min requirements for certification. UPS has a footprint that includes twice as many sims as K4.


Our training department also has a tendency to break it's own policy by allowing 2 OPT first officers to take part in a jeopardy event together rather than bringing in a quaified captain for seat support, thus setting people up for failure. I've talked to Delta and United pilots who say this is absolutely egregious and would never happen on their property.



Lastly, I'm hearing rumors of check airmen going behind closed doors with the flight standards captain and changing grades after the student has already signed the report. Again, rumors only, but if they turn out to be true, there will be some serious hot water with the FAA.


At some point, our training department will reap what it sows.

Haha....mine? I am not the one carting a military helmet bag around 20 yrs later....

Settle down, one would have to be a complete dumbass to say such a thing to a big wig, even if you are the worlds best pilot from South America.